Mr Wolves

I am not sure if you are aware of what all Mr Phil Steak did while alive. Yes he possibly killed someone he was not suppose to and covered it up prior to being given his own family, this was not confirmed but more a rumor but if it is true that is one minor detail that doesn't mess up everything else he did.

He agreed to gain a lot of enemies and infiltrate Los Angeles's trust and found out they wanted to war Mr DeadlySin and took it to him with full proof which eventually with the help of his allies in Chicago alongside the main two involved killed off Los Angeles and kept the alliance fully in tact.

Some would say didn't he shoot your bloodline? Yes, yes he did, but at the same time I caused a lot of that myself being young, naive, and really really stupid. I didn't learn from it fully until later down my bloodline but I always remembered it. 

Sticks went to Cpt-Harris about helping with the removal of DeadlySin, Cpt-Harris was loyal to Sammy-Garcini and since Sammy was loyal to DeadlySin and due to this it was decided by those in Chicago to remove Sticks before he could do any damage as we know he had the capabilities to do.

Now there may be more to some of these stories given I only know some of it as I was not privy to all of the information but I had enough to know that while Phil Steak in many forms may have appeared to be a bad guy, he was very much a loyal soldier to Philadelphia.

And the end of your first bit of talking you wrote 

Welcome or not? 

That would imply you are suggesting that we debate if he's allowed in our society correct me if I'm wrong of course. 

A mere $30k tip, Mr Steak??

Backstabbing: Sticks received a knife inthe back, if I recall correctly?  And wasn't there rather a large sum of cash involved in that?

Say something a bit more complimentary of me, and it would have been a larger tip. The tip was pretty much accurate for  how much 6 lines, which were only worth 2 lines, should get.


As for that late great great Mr. Buttitass, no idea who that is... but he seems like an angry individual. He seemed like he was hot tempered and didn't make great decisions when angry, similar to my grand pops Phil_Steak at times. 

Having heard enough Wankish Knightsbane decides it best to intervene

DancesWithWolves please my friend take my advice, this is not an argument you are going to win we cannot punish a man for the deeds another has done.

When his father died so did the sins and glories accomplished.

We cannot hold people accountable for the past we are businessmen not bloody savages this is about profit and business and whilst i cannot comment on your accusations of Phils ancestors i can guess that it was only business as that is what we all are and nothing is this thing of ours should ever be taken personal.

I understand your pains i really do but it is all in the past and turning into a savage won't bring Batiatus back or Cristiano they are gone forever..

Now take my advice my good friend have a beer, go on vacation find yourself an employer let's not forget it is business and profit that drive us not a lust for blood and vengeance we are not savages we are gentlemen.

With that Wankish Knightsbane tips his hat and leaves a coin in the hand of DanceswithWolves before disappearing into the crowds

There is no pain here, and it is simply wrong to challenge me.

The simple fact is that we are here to discuss whether Phil_Steak should have tipped more than $30k for this discussion.

Phil, maybe you'd agree to an interviewer?

DancesWithWolves,

You can ask any person who at any point had a falling out/dislike with my family how they have been treated any time they took the time to have a talk. 

We have always given everyone the time of day, and will answer almost all questions genuinely. 

Now, if an answer to a question might give out information that would effect another person, that is the only time i will not comment. 

OK, Phil_Steak.

I'd like to ask you about your relationships with the following bloodlines:

Benny

Kuklinski

Premeir.

Full answers please.

We had a drunk orgy together at some point, I think.

What do you want me to say, lol?

Benny who? I have a pretty bad memory, so I need some more details.

Kuku? Eh, My relationship with kuku goes pretty much as far as anyone elses. I find him amusing, and that's about it. 
At times i was interested in "housing" him as I found the guy entertaining, but those notions of mine were quickly dismissed by my supporting party, telling me it was not an smart idea.


As for Premier, his bloodline and I go way way way back... literally to the very beginning.
Although we are nowhere near as close as we once were, our bloodlines practically grew up together. 

Your questions are pretty... lame.  You make a horrible interviewer. 
 

OK, let's delve a bit.

Describe your blood's relationships with that of DS and Sticks?  

And did you know, for example, that Sticks was paying Kuku & the plumbers a significant sum of money to cause trouble for Prem?  Prem himself had BGs shot around that era.

Phil_Steak is the greatest man I have ever known.

I say he is not welcome back.

And if you would like to know our relationship you can ask me as well. I assume this is kuku?

DancesWithWolves, My ancestor Phil_Steak first joined DeadlySin while DeadySin was a captain in Las Vegas. He was tired of working for the same blood lines and wanted to expand his knowledge and experience by working with a group he previously had no relationship with.
 

While in LV, he found DeadlySin and his RHM at the time, Coco/Sparkles to be outstanding. There were several wars, and for the first time, my bloodline experienced organization at a level previously unseen to him. Deadlysin kept Phil_Steak alive through several wars early on, well before Phil had a gun worth protecting. This is undoubtly one of the main reasons Phil remained so loyal to DeadlySin. For the first time ever, Phil wasn't just used as a cash cow, but was actually appreciated and protected at a level he never felt before. That's not to say my bloodline hasn't had great leaders, such as Caius and Premier, but that it was at another level and greatly appreciated.

After several wars, DeadlySin transitioned to Philly and Phil_Steak became a capo under him. 
During that time, there was a war, which i can't completely recall which one... possibly the taking out of Sao where Phil requested a chance to relocate to New Orleans and establish himself as a Godfather there. Although Deadlysin was not too happy about this, Phil was able to convince him that having the powers of Two Godfathers and Two Cities would be beneficial. 

In hindsight, things would have been a lot less complicated had Phil stayed in Philly as an underboss, but that's neither here or there.

is there anything else/specific you wish to know about my relations with DS?

As for Mr. Sticks paying Kuku and his band of merry men, i see no information of that in my fathers journals. It was most like too insignicant for him to write about. I do recall reading passages in the diary that Phil_Steak felt anything to come out of Kukus mouth should be taken with a grain of salt. It is for pure comical and entertainment value.

If such information was made aware, it would have to come from Kuku himself, as who else would know that Sticks would be paying the man to do that?

Any information that came from Kuku himself would not have any credibility.
So it's a mute point.

I do personally doubt that happened though. For sticks to spend money on something that did no benefit him in any way would be a silly move. Why spend your money to kill bgs of someone who barely had any BGs and poised no threat to anyone? The prem bloodline was a consigliere, not a gun. He was there for his input and experience in handling situations. I don't think Sticks would do such a thing, and if he did, im sure it was just for entertainment, as there was no real harm done.


Mr. Dances, i would like to ask you a favor. I believe im being a good sport and entertaining your questions. Can I ask, in a show of good effort, that old threads from 2 years ago not be rekindled? There is no interest in the streets to review footage from times past.
I have no problems with mentions and copies of those passages (OOC: Share links), but let us not flood the streets with archives of old speeches that would leave those not from the time confused.

Let us keep the streets current and allow other mafioso ramblings to hold top priority, and keep our discussions of the past here.

Thank you. 
 

Some people, Premeir and Phil_Steak, might call me Kuku.

That's up to them and I have nothing to do with it.

But I am privvy to a lot of knowledge, and all of it comes from my mind, which is a Kuku mind. 

So let's start.

Why was Prem targeted?  Basically because he's Prem (no hard feelings), and Phil_Steak gave him a home and a job. 

Why did Sticks fund a BG attack on Prem?  He was essentially conned into it - he funded the Plumbers and we hit Prem's solitary BG, in a pretty audacious caper.  And we told Sticks that we do so, in part to ensure Omerta.

Stick was funding us because he wanted instability, and he also said that he couldn't move against Phil himself but wanted others to do so.

So... why was Phil_Steak such a bad man? Why was he so terrible? 

He seems like he did what he had to do at times. 

The good doesn't cleanse the evil, nor the evil tarnish the good. Welcome back Phil.

Face_Puncher lets out an elongated yawwwwwn....

This conversation is boring.  You bring up a minor controversy from years ago as if people should, or might, still have any particular feelings whatsoever about it. Hell, I don't even know the particulars of the events which you suggest cause the notoriety, and my bloodline goes back as far as anyone's. It just wasn't that interesting.

There are far, far dirtier deeds in our history to talk about. Hell, there are even dirtier dealings done by older ancestors of Mr. Steak which would make more interesting conversation. Seems to me Phil_Steak was simply behaving like a mobster, and Mr. Wolves is doing nothing more than trying to stir up resentment where it doesn't exist.

We could use more mobster-like behavior around here. I get sick of seeing the whining, sniveling bitches crying about people being mean and unfair.

Wankish Knightsbane tips his hat at the man nicknamed "Face Puncher"

Well said my good man...