Okay so this is probably going to be completely hated and thought "Why even bother and such?" or "We have something similar."

Anyway I know that we can get up to $35,000 when we return after dying on another account and such yet I feel that is something kind of underrated. In a way it's good but also it's kind of like to low. If I were a mafioso I'd also put back money for my next of kin so they have it easier.

I guess what I'm suggesting is a bank option that allows like a maximum of like 5 to maybe even 20 million dollars. Yeah I know that's a lot but maybe charge like a tax. Maybe every 150k that you put in the account the bank takes a third. Basically you pay them $50,000 to clean up $100,000 back and keep it safe until you claim it on your next account. So say overall you want to put back 3 million but it'd really take 4 million to get it in there. Another thing could be could be say you have that saved up and comeback with another account and die before using it, then it goes away. Why? Because it was meant for that account and you're gone and didn't pay the tax that your original account did.

Thoughts, ideas? Personally I think it's a grand idea. I don't have anything against donating and I've donated more than my fair share on every account but how often do you see me BGed up? Never. Why? Because I don't have the cash, not that I don't want to. I just feel that this can spread the wealth of bg's to users that don't have the high up connections for whatever reason there maybe.

I am totally against this idea for one major reason, the biggest way we have to remove money from the game, and keep it somewhat in balance, is death. Now, if you've got a bank account stored away with 20 million dollars in it, waiting for your next of kin to come along, that's just slowing the amount of money that is leaving the game, and it'll end up ruining the game's economy even worse.

That's not to mention how it would throw the game out of balance in other ways, such as bodyguards and what not.

I wouldn't vote for this idea. Hell, I'm not too partial about the 35k start up capital, but I think that's a better compromise then this.

It was a great idea Skate but the problem for me is everyone will get a BG that cost $750,000 at thug.

Look I can understand that there would be more cash. 20 mill is too much even I think but I'm being open. I think you should be able to save at most 5 mill. I mean yeah you could get well protected damn near but I mean there's people walking around with 50 bgs as is, huge disadvantage to be honest. There's always an ass load of cash in the game if you wanted it leaving you'd have a reset in my mind.

I think this should be rolled over as much as it can with how the game is.

Also I'm not really one for bitching anymore at least but let's be honest. Some people aren't ever going to be taken care of irregardless of how good they ever do. I've held a Don account and been welcomed back with a "Hey wanna come be in my crew and hit for me?" That's about as much as I've ever gotten as a helping hand.

Call it bitching and moaning but after trying to actually play this game in the sense it's meant to be played in I can't help but think this would balance the effect of friendship on the game. I could now make sure I have something to really look forward to on my next account other than going so far just to always come short.

Also before anyone ass rapes me on the whole "What makes you think you've earned any of it?" I can understand earning something. I have nothing against anyone that has made it further than me but not everyone can RP like some, or kill like FP and a few others or rank to godfather in min time like FridgeRevenge. Some are meant to be soldiers for the family or workers and trusted members.

Trust me, I get all of it but to those that are normally just hardworkers that very rarely or never get to see auth would make them feel a shit load better about the work they put in.

Wanting wills = being lazy. True story.

This has been suggested for as long as I can remember, and each time its been shot down. There's already too much money in the game and not enough ways to get it back OUT of the game. The only thing of substance you can spend money on is bodyguards (yes, you can buy drugs and use the casino, but those are potentially profit making endeavors, and not really a place to SPEND money where there is no financial return), and by allowing wills or an inheritance feature, you're making it possible for thugs to buy cheap bodyguards.

There is no reason for a thug to have bodyguards at all. In my opinion, you shouldn't be able to buy bodyguards before you're Made Man. I mean, what kind of statement does that make. Now you're Joe Hotshit, and you need 4 people protecting your unknown ass? No.

You already get startup money for repeat accounts. Wills are not needed as a game implementation. You want your kid to have an inheritance? Find a friend and give him some "Just in case money" and when you die, ask for your Just In Case money back. If your 'friend' doesn't give it to you? That's the breaks, kid.

Seriously, this doesn't need to be a game implementation. Besides, it not that hard to get startup money anyway. Do the work, and stop asking for handouts.

I've done the work numerous times and I usually don't ask for hand outs. Crew leaders ask me to hit for them and I ask for bg's if anything.

Good. Then have the crewleaders buy your bodyguards with their money as payment for your services, instead of keeping endless supplies of money in the game. Wills are not necessary.

No no no I'm not saying it will all stay. That's the point of the tax for putting money into the account and having a cap on it anyway. I mean 2-5 million cap isn't that bad it'd almost be the same as donating all of it in a way. I just don't think $35,000 is enough.

2 to 5 million is way too much, as indicated in my original reply, its enough to set you up with a small handful of bodyguards which no one needs. You don't need bodyguards when you're a thug. You don't "NEED" bodyguards until you're a Mademan. Earn the money, or if you are that vital to your crewleader's operation he/she will buy them for you.

We need money taken OUT of the game. Not kept in. 35,000 is more than enough to get you started on drug runs when you're a thug.

If you want to ensure that your next of kin has a little something extra, like I also said, give it to a friend for safekeeping until you need it. Its a gamble, but so is life.

Hell, take up the initiative and start your own life insurance company and charge rates, making yourself some money in the process.

Wills implemented by game mechanics are not necessary, and from the responses in the past everytime this has been brought up ARE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN because it keeps money in the game that doesn't need to be there.

Its just not going to happen, and if in the apocalyptic age it ever does, this game will have gone to shit.

When you die, you come back you start over just like everyone else. If you're a repeat player, you get a small bonus. Be happy you get that. Its more than generous.

If it does the game will have gone to shit? Okay if it takes that then wow. I play this game because I'm allowed but I'm still going to have my opinions on things and not that the game has gone to shit but some senses have. Mostly wack though and that's the only thing I have a problem with. So I'd say wack has gone to shit not the game but nonetheless they had wills and shit back then and a mobsters son always had money to fall back on in most cases.

The reason I think wack has gone to shit is mostly just training a gun since it's not a craft anymore it's like pickpocketing. As long as you try you can get good at it instead of actually having to learn ways to be quicker than the next mafioso you just have to click.

Eh I'm not making the points I want to make but I won't anyway because no one gives shit a chance. There's around 15 people or so OWP doesn't that make it unfair for those who can't get those bg's? Thought it was suppose to be a level playing field :|

It's supposed to be a level playing field for the beginners. You can't expect to register and then be as awesome as the Godfathers. You have to work towards it.

What do you want money for? Lots of bodyguards? If everyone could get bodyguards at Thug then it would be harder to kill. And so the admins would shift the code to make it easier to kill, or bodyguards less effective. In which case you'll be no better off than if everyone did not have bodyguards at Thug. Which defeats the point in wanting a will.

Just do what everyone else does and work to get your money. It's what they did. And if not, do something else that they did; they made connections. I like that it works like this. Gives more emphasis to the community aspect of the game as opposed to the button clicking.

Heh I don't believe in taking ass loads of demotions to get bg's like others have and in case you didn't notice already there's already too many bg's in the game as is. Whatever argument you make I'll have a rebuttle for it especially about "what do you need loads of bg's for?" What does anyone need them for? To counter act the chance of wack. Well if I have none and plenty of others have 20 or so I'm immediately at a disadvantage. Aren't a beginner when only a thug? yes.

And your rebuttal makes no sense. There are a lot of bodyguards in the game because its the only thing of substance to spend money on, so your suggestion to keep money in the game only exacerbates the existing problem of too many bodyguards.

What your last statement says is "But everyone else has them, why can't I?"

Because they bought them or had people buy bodyguards for them.

So earn the money, or if your crewleader thinks you're that valuable, he or she will buy them for you. If a 'will' is instituted, all those people who have more bodyguards than you will STILL have more bodyguards than you because they'll have friends and crewleaders donating the money, in ADDITION to their inheritance.

Pointless.

So bring on your rebuttals. They make about as much sense as the initial suggestion.

You admit that there's too many bodyguards in the game as it is, and then ask for a feature which will, inevitably, only increase the number of bodyguards in the game.

Why, I don't even need to rebut your rebuttals. You do it for me.

Unless, of course, it would be the case that, if we had a will feature, the high rankers would not give money to their newly resurrected friends, then you might have a point. But then there would be too much money in the game. More money for more bodyguards. The rich stay richer, and better protected. The scale shifts to the right, but the gap is still the same.

I think the issue you really have is that you don't have rich friends. Go make some. It's what clever people do.

"what do you need loads of bg's for?" What does anyone need them for? To counter act the chance of wack. Well if I have none and plenty of others have 20 or so I'm immediately at a disadvantage.

Also worth clearing up, so that new players aren't confused here, that having a 'load' of bg's does nothing to your chances of wb as suggested above. Having one bg helps reduce your chances of wb'ing. Any additional bg's do nothing to further reduce the odds. Sure, they help increase your defence for a shot.. but not against wb as is potentially inferred from the above.

He didn't say "wack back", Sat. He said "wack". As in, to counter the chance of being wacked.

;)

Woops. For some reason I read that as "wack back". My bad. Ignore my drunken ramblings here (I'll claim that the use of 'the chance of wack' rather than 'the chance of being wacked' is the reason, not simply that I'm an idiot).