Sinfest Takes a look around and notices a lone horse walking around licking people like they were salt licks. He is just amazed how salty a lot of people are being. He stops and realizes its really not that amazing as after war, some people just are butt hurt about what happened. While Sinfest is not upper management he still has had some pretty terrible experiences with the family leader KevinOwens especially at the coffee shop. Sinfest isn't ashamed to admit he was one of the people who have complained about Mr Owens and his attitude.  Sinfest then gets up on the soap box and begins with

"I know people think its unfair that a citizen was killed as well as most of their family. We should all respect the dead but I will be damned if I stand there and not defend my cities actions. The man KevinOwens by his own opinion claimed he was "Just an asshole" and personally that doesn't fly with me. There is no excuse valid that lets you treat others like crap. As to complaining you died with your leader. Sorry you picked the wrong family but since when do we only punish the family leader? You are a family and are suppose to work as a team. That means you will die as a team as well. Being in someone's family should mean you support their actions and ability so if your family leader is proud of being a jerk to people then so should you in a sense." 

Sinfest pauses because he knows he tends to be kind of a windbag when it comes to these things.

"I hold no ill will towards anyone who died last night but I will say I think the upper management was right in their actions or I wouldn't be alive and working with them right now. I hope the ancestors of the people who died will achieve great things and we will all make massive amounts of money since we can get back to business as usual. Rest in Peace to the fallen and may we all live long and fruitful lives"

Sinfest tips his hat to the crowd before stepping down and rejoining his family listening in. 

Sinfest Takes a look around and notices a lone horse walking around licking people like they were salt licks. He is just amazed how salty a lot of people are being. He stops and realizes its really not that amazing as after war, some people just are butt hurt about what happened. While Sinfest is not upper management he still has had some pretty terrible experiences with the family leader KevinOwens especially at the coffee shop. Sinfest isn't ashamed to admit he was one of the people who have complained about Mr Owens and his attitude.  Sinfest then gets up on the soap box and begins with

"I know people think its unfair that a citizen was killed as well as most of their family. We should all respect the dead but I will be damned if I stand there and not defend my cities actions. The man KevinOwens by his own opinion claimed he was "Just an asshole" and personally that doesn't fly with me. There is no excuse valid that lets you treat others like crap. As to complaining you died with your leader. Sorry you picked the wrong family but since when do we only punish the family leader? You are a family and are suppose to work as a team. That means you will die as a team as well. Being in someone's family should mean you support their actions and ability so if your family leader is proud of being a jerk to people then so should you in a sense." 

Sinfest pauses because he knows he tends to be kind of a windbag when it comes to these things.

"I hold no ill will towards anyone who died last night but I will say I think the upper management was right in their actions or I wouldn't be alive and working with them right now. I hope the ancestors of the people who died will achieve great things and we will all make massive amounts of money since we can get back to business as usual. Rest in Peace to the fallen and may we all live long and fruitful lives"

Sinfest tips his hat to the crowd before stepping down and rejoining his family listening in. 

Whoa, buddy. That sounds like bloodlining.

I thought we just learned yesterday that this rampant epidemic must stop?

"I know people think its unfair that a citizen was killed as well as most of their family. We should all respect the dead but I will be damned if I stand there and not defend my cities actions. The man KevinOwens by his own opinion claimed he was "Just an asshole" and personally that doesn't fly with me. There is no excuse valid that lets you treat others like crap. As to complaining you died with your leader. Sorry you picked the wrong family but since when do we only punish the family leader? You are a family and are suppose to work as a team. That means you will die as a team as well. Being in someone's family should mean you support their actions and ability so if your family leader is proud of being a jerk to people then so should you in a sense." 

When do we only punish the family leader? There have been plenty of times in which only leaders were removed and their members have been spared. One that comes to mind is Siobhan back in Philly. Granted it was her RHM who was removed as well, but the point is still there. Siobhan was removed while her associates and members were spared.

I don't think you understand the difference between members and associates. Members are people who have accepted the oath into a family. They have their button. They are Made Men. An associate is someone who is not. They haven't taken the oath, and they are trying to earn their stripes to get into the family. Typically anyone who's just a Wise Guy is an associate. I wondered why these associates were murdered when they were indeed not members of KevinOwens' family. I would have understood if members were gunned down, but associates were as well. And these associates pose no threat to anyone. Especially during a takedown.

I'm just here for the food.

I don't think you understand the difference between members and associates. Members are people who have accepted the oath into a family. They have their button. They are Made Men. An associate is someone who is not. They haven't taken the oath, and they are trying to earn their stripes to get into the family. Typically anyone who's just a Wise Guy is an associate. I wondered why these associates were murdered when they were indeed not members of KevinOwens' family. I would have understood if members were gunned down, but associates were as well. And these associates pose no threat to anyone. Especially during a takedown.

"Thats very true associates were gunned down but then witness statements were requested for a lot of them if I am not mistaken. Its not like we were letting people get away with it. Just because you personally have seen any consequences doesn't meant they haven't happened. I never said anything about it being ok to shoot a wise guy or below. Please do not speak for me or twist my words"

"Not long ago, we received some intel that some of the people in New York's upper structure were of the same opinion that Duplicity was a "total tyrant" and that "she has to die for others to live." "

Is there a problem with the above facts? She is a tyrant. Whoever is not known or trusted by her (majority) dies because she  fears death.

We have far more  intel and documentation that proves her unfit. Do we got to reach in our pockets to step outside our element to have her removed? As I see it she and her posse are removing all other prospects. it gets old all the bullshit excuses because you fear death. 

Cassi the trend of eliminating entire crews isn't new at all.
 

Again Sinfest, you are mistaken. My mother was a lowly associate, killed many, many minutes after her leader had fallen, but before a protection order. And I can assure you there was no witness statement requested in that death. I am hardly complaining, as anyone who knows my bloodline knows I go down with the ship. However this new trend of eliminating anyone under Made during a takedown is repulsive. We're not talking war, where you have no idea who's shooting/pro'ing, things of those natures. We're talking takedown where virtually all members are sleeping, completely unaware in their homes. There used to be a deeper respect for those things in the past.

"How exactly am I mistaken? I never said it was ok that the people under made man were killed except of course the ones who as you put it "Go down with the ship." Some of the people who were under made man did try to shoot others and ended up dead because of it. Sure not all of the kills were innocent and again how do you know that they did not request a ws on your mother? Also you have no idea how long this may have been planned. Good families have people awake at all hours with ways to contact sleeping family members to help. Not to say any of these families were bad because I had friends who died as well."

Sinfest decides it best to just try to explain again what he was trying to say

"All I really am saying is why do we do this same song and dance where we bash the winning side instead of being respectful mafioso and keeping stuff like hate on the underground until you can find a way to take out this so called "tyrant"? I mean let's be honest most of you are probably going to suicide with plans of having another family descendant take over the reigns of your "business". If anything Godmother Duplicity is doing her job and giving you a reason to play but there is really no need for this bashing every single time. If you don't agree with how things are run then do something about it cause the complaints don't do much to help your cause."

Sinfest, you are drooling. Has anyone ever told you your lips are chapped? 

I believe witness statements were asked for those after the protection order was in place. Why? Because many were gunned down the same time KO was. The associates that died were definitely on the list to be removed. And no I don't think any leaders were allowing for anyone to get any with anything. I think the leaders in place are very good at what they do or else they wouldn't be where they are. 

Cassi may have hit the nail on the head with a sledge hammer.