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Women can't be leaders Started by: Bomberman on Mar 08, '10 02:41

Singer walks in hearing what is going on then with a bit of frustration he speaks out

Bomberman i know your opinion matters but when its rude even if its not meant to be it matters in a whloe new way brother. A woman cant be a leader is what you said if i am correct, Now that statement is already false because Ms.Lucretia Is a woman and A Godmother at that  and so was Ms. Aurora. But lets take a look down history for a second for a moment Look at Wu Zetian the only Empress of China  in 690 to 705 and look at what she had done in her time. Take a glance at the Elizabeth the first of England and what she had accomplished suprressing any uproar to her crown. Now i wont even get started on Catherine the Great of Russia and what she had done my dear Bomberman or anyone thatstands with him Finally lets look at the famous Joan of arc not only a woman but fourteen at that and she conqured england. Now your telling me woman cant be leaders while history is telling me they can.

Singer smiles tips his hat and slowly exits 

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To be fair, she had alot of help from her lesser-know older brother, Geoffrey of Arc.

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I wonder which hormone fueled and PMS crazed trigger happy bitch will be the one to waste him? I hope the whisper is full of nagging about why he never helped out with the dishes and left his dirty underwear all over the floor.

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Brother she had three brothers none was named Geoffrey but she did have an older sister no one knew much about.

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Sigh.

As always this has led to the personal insult bullshit rather than people offering their own views in a well thought out reply.

Shrug.

In it's simplest form a leader is someone who does exactly as the name says, leads. If a leader can gather a group of followers - or to make my point relevant to our lifestyle - if a family head can recruit mafiosi and enforce rules upon them, then they are a leader. This of course is in it's simplest form, so with regards to what you said, women CAN be leaders since they CAN enforce rules upon their mafiosi, whether or not they make better or worse leaders than men, well that is simply a matter of opinion.

The points you have used are pretty poor to be honest, I've met women who show little to no emotion at all, ruthless in both business and war, so to tar all women with the same emotional brush is, well, utter nonsense to be fair.

You picked up on the point that women can get pregnant, I assume what you mean by this is that they may have a sufficient amount of time off, but in this lifestyle I doubt you will find a Family head who will take maternity leave. Granted, about the time of birth the leader may not be around for a few days max, but this is no different than if a male leader was taken ill and couldn't be around for a short while.

Again, with the too feminine point, you're simply tarring all women with the same brush, maybe you've met a limited amount of women, I wouldn't know, but I've met women who would prove this point wrong.

I can only assume therefore that this rant of sorts was not well thought out at all and the main aim was to simply kick up a bit of a fuss, well done in which case, you have certainly nailed that one by the looks of this crowd and the mass amount of replies you have had in such a short space of time.

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I guess you're right.

I hear he was going to go with "Achilles can't be a leader" but nobody would have disagreed with him.

~G~warble.

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and here i figured he would weigh in on the "hoopi vs gwarble" fight.

okay seriously. achilles is right on all counts.

i still wouldn't want to bet on bombermans odds of survivel.

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The points given would probably be along similar lines too, Gwarble.

Hears thunder

Watch out for that lightning bebz.

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What complete and utter rubbish you have spouted.

Women are a lot more rational than men and less likely to be hot headed and rush headlong into making rash decisions.

If a woman wishes to have a family, So what. there are plenty of mothers doing full time jobs as well as runnng a home And bringing kids up to be decent citizens.

get out of the dark ages man,

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Kirk listens to this speech only to say.

"You make me sick many women are amazing in bed and can be great leaders at the same time. Don't single out the submissive women there are many dominate women in this world."

Kirk grinning now and rubbing the bottom of his chin.

"And believe me sir I am Captain James T. Kirk I have been with a lot of women and seen my fair share of the dominates. I think your wrong in that women can't be capable leaders when I my bloodlines have been working for many women crew leaders and they did a great job leading. So young man I suggest you change that crazy attitude of yours or its possible someone will with cold hard steel."

He then takes out a cigarette and lights it.

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exactly captin. my great grandfather used to rave about the godmother in his city. she was, according to him, "the best godmother out there" at that time.

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"The reason is because women are too emotional"

I stopped reading there. The amount of men I have seen start a war over little things is untrue. Generally i'd say that the women leaders we have seen are far more balanced and have less of a 'bloodlust' than their male counterparts.

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I always thought you were Captian James T. Kirk; and to whichever cretin said Joan of Arc 'conquered' England - she didn't my darling.

I have nothing further to add to this debate.

Fred turns on his heel and struts away melodramatically.

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I'd like to add another comment about that Joan of Arc thing, she wasn't even fourteen when the campaigns she led started she was 16-17 years old or may be even older and all the battles she led were in France she never went to England not even when she was burnt on the skate kind sir, please review the history of the English - French wars to make sure.

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Exactly! Like I was saying, it was mostly Geoffrey.

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I am not sure FlyingPig who it was, but I am sure it wasn't Jeanne d'Arc.
Takes his pack of cigarettes out, lights one and offers FlyingPig one
do you smoke sir? should help kill the time till that guy comes again and tells us who it was? I am eagerly waiting to know.

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Pepper listens to Bomberman's rant and decides he's mental.

"No real man takes orders from a woman who knows that shes going home and getting told what to do in the bedroom by her man. They can put on a front in public, but behind closed doors women are too "fragile"

Maybe that's only the girls u have encountered or misunderstood. Seems like someone is intimidated by succsesful women, no? And what does this have to do with the success of a woman leader? 

Lana is pregnant (congrats) and trying to run a family. Is that before or after the morning sickness? Lucretia is showing bigger balls than most of the men around here so perhaps the problem is the males.

Wouldn't the fact that she "is showing more balls" indicate she is a strong leader? You are contradicting yourself. Either u think women are fragile or ballsy. The only male with a problem around here is you. 

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No real man takes orders from a woman who knows that shes going home and getting told what to do in the bedroom by her man.



I see we have a subscriber to the 'Ted Bundy' school of thought.

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Just had to take the chance to reply here.  This is definitely an interesting debate.  Certainly interesting to come out to these streets and make this speech.  I don't know if it's sexist or just ignorant. 

There are so many topics that stem from this same ignorance. 

Same reasoning is why there were laws that women couldn't vote.  This is also how schools get segregated.  Just a lot of ignorance and not enough education. 

I understand this speech was likely meant to compliment women, and point out their attributes that men just don't have.  But it just wasn't very well thought out. 

I think if you're going to make a statement such as this - you should probably add some data to prove your point.  Unfortunately, I don't think there is any data that would support your position. 

And...

I for one enjoy women on top.

Just saying.

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Actually some are some off the best leaders around are women period * no pun intended * Someday you will learn this :)

maybe you have already.

 Plax exits the building.

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