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GAME CHANGE: Durden Raids | Started by: enkindle on Sep 22, '16 22:02 |
Durden Raids are now available for public testing. In this new daily event, your crew must work together with their Bodyguards to defeat a crew of Durden soldiers. You may find the Raids in the Profit menu. To participate you need to have at least one named bodyguard that has at least one skill (Wack, Defense, Stealth, Info or Rage) trained. There is an in-depth explanation at the bottom of the Raid page. |
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The big rewards are not in place yet, and wont be until we can get things balanced. Difficulty, rewards, and some other aspects can only be honed after watching a fair amount of testing. We may make some changes after getting some feedback and some more data, so don't get too too attached to something :P |
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Reply by: Squishy at Sep 22, '16 22:10 | |
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What he said. |
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Reply by: enkindle at Sep 22, '16 22:14 | |
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Is there an ETA/idea of how much data you need before this feature is fully implemented? Training these bi-daily seems to costs a small fortune, and the bounty payouts aren't really reflecting the investment we've put into them so far. |
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Reply by: Daria at Dec 14, '16 19:38 | |
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I agree completely with Daria. And then only one or two of the persons in my crew even have named bodyguards. Nor do they train. Ridiculous amount of money I've spent on mine. |
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Reply by: BobaFett at Dec 14, '16 20:00 | |
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Which difficulty is your crew trying them on, Daria, BobaFett? |
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Reply by: CaptainBubbleBeard at Dec 14, '16 20:18 | |
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We're currently doing Extremely Challenging and will probably bump it up further - even still, I imagine I'd have to run multiple weeks of raids without additional training to recoup costs. |
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Reply by: Daria at Dec 14, '16 20:30 | |
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I believe once they go fully live, Enkindle had mentioned something about special Perks + completion bonuses, perhaps those would help offset the training costs some. We shall see! |
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Reply by: CaptainBubbleBeard at Dec 14, '16 20:36 | |
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Aye thats why Daria was asking when it goes live, as currently a lot of people investing into their BGs to simply hit a Durden and get a few k back isn't worth the time nor hassle that they are investing into it. |
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Reply by: Slash at Dec 16, '16 09:31 | |
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I don't think investing in your bodyguards solely for Durden Raids is the best way to go. However, you do get the defence boost from them being trained, which is the primary reason for having them in the first place. Looking at my BGs:
I think they've had a decent return on investment, although I haven't actually sat down and worked it out. Either way, I think it is a nice little feature to waste a little time on. |
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Reply by: LuciusSweet at Dec 16, '16 10:04 | |
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Depends what you put into it Lucius. One stat going all the way to level 10 would cost you 550,000. If you choose to max each stat out, you've got a max cost for that 1 BG 2.75 million. My best BG;
This is after a lot of fights. Not even half the max amount I can pay to train it has been won back. Accounting for days where maybe I didnt do any fights etc, we can still say there is a large shortfall in amount of effort required to re-coup investment currently. I'm not bothered by this really, as I appreciate the option is still in testing and so im happy to invest into my BG to further use the Raids to test them, but I figured I might as well echoe the sentiment that there is indeed an obvious shortfall in reward for doing so. |
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Reply by: Slash at Dec 16, '16 11:33 | |||||||
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216 Wins, 126 Losses, $2,192,000 Earned My best BG, StoooopidTree (might have a few extra or missing some o's) only trained wack skill to 6 and no further. Yes you can be out some money if you constantly train them but it's an investment much like a DFP. The risk for the raids I feel is a lot less than buying a DFP because if you're like me and have an issue keeping them for more than 4 days that's about a 5 million dollar loss. This is a lot cheaper and you have the ability to control the risk you take on your investment by your training schedule for them |
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Reply by: BobbyMunson at Dec 16, '16 13:26 | |
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I think it largely depends upon what you're killing and the bounty you're earning. For your 285 wins, you're only averaging a bounty of like $4,000, so you're killing some really weak Durdens. For my 58 wins, I'm averaging $12,800. If I had done your number of wins at my average, I would be ahead of the game even with a maxed BG at $2.75m. |
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Reply by: LuciusSweet at Dec 16, '16 14:58 | |
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I have a question about why BG's are being greyed out before their skills are depleted. The object seems to be to kill as many durden BG's as possible, so it seems when I use my skill strategically and spread their skills out for the best over all success, the algorithms you use don't seem to like this. Or is there just something obvious that I am missing? P.S. just to be clear, they are being greyed out before their skills are used, not even wounded and certainly not defeated. |
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Reply by: Raylan_Givens at Dec 27, '16 00:17 | |
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A single one, or past the 5th one? |
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Reply by: Squishy at Dec 27, '16 01:08 | |
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ahh, I see. After the 5. Forgive me I had to read the section again. Has their been any thoughts on changing that aspect? I have yet to see my crew finish the raids in the 40 days I've been back. |
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Reply by: Raylan_Givens at Dec 27, '16 01:36 | |
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Raylan_Givens, your CL can change the difficulty level. I was in a crew where only two people were doing it and we were able to beat it every time on the lowest difficulty, even with my poorly trained BGs. We went up difficulties as we trained. But if it's just one person doing it then it's pretty hard to beat. |
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Reply by: Daniella at Dec 27, '16 01:42 | |
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ahh, yes. thank you Daniella. And thank you Squishy.
cheers! |
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Reply by: Raylan_Givens at Dec 27, '16 01:52 | |
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Anyone else had a really hard BG added to their list today? Ive had our crew at the same setting for a while now and today, we got a BG that was stats like; 38 Wack 18 Defence 29 Stealth 18 Info (or thereabouts. All really high stats) Just wondered if this was a new change, or an anomaly on our part. |
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Reply by: Slash at Dec 28, '16 17:02 | |
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It was just my luck around Slash... But glad the thing was done: Raid Complete! |
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Reply by: WoonDa at Dec 28, '16 19:53 | |
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