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| Lets talk Politics In the USA | Started by: Redismycolor on Oct 23, '16 06:56 |
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Thankfully it doesn't mention any plan to turn United States into a rogue nuclear nation. Nobody said America were gonna be a "rogue nuclear nation", you're literally re-writing the contents of this discussion and embellishing what's been said just to further your own agenda. However, do you think China are just gonna sit back and accept Trump's plans to impose a 45% tax on Chinese imports to the US, naming China as "currency manipulators" and forcing American trademark laws on Chinese soil? Remember what happened the last time America imposed a trade embargo on an Asian nation? Yeah - Pearl Harbour, followed by Nagasaki and Hiroshima. You honestly think Kim Jong Un will be happy when Trump orders an American military presence in the south China seas, within striking distance of North Korea? That dude is straight up bonkers. He also has nukes. Two seriously deluded guys with extremely powerful weapons is - as I said - a recipe for disaster. |
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| Reply by: Rorschach at Nov 03, '16 09:54 | |
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Didn't they? |
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| Reply by: Severodvinsk at Nov 03, '16 10:04 | |
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Hmm... clearly I missed that; my apologies. My points still stand though, the aggression shown towards Asia - and more specifically China - won't exactly endear America to the Asian nations. |
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| Reply by: Rorschach at Nov 03, '16 10:14 | |
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I'll adress Kim having nukes. During who ever the next president is term Pyongyang will become able to deliver a nuclear warhead to the continental United States. That is a threat that would be hard for any US leader. Missile defence may provide some protection, but it would only be a matter of time before North Korea’s capability would overwhelm US defences. If North Korea has to be forcibly disarmed, that is likely to require the removal of the Kim Jong-Un regime. If who would handle this situation better is a primary concern, one of the candidates has already shown no issue with going to war to remove a dictator. |
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| Reply by: Severodvinsk at Nov 03, '16 10:29 | |
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| Reply by: tiggy at Nov 08, '16 18:03 | |
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This Presidential election in the states is epic! It's about time an insider is ousted! |
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| Reply by: Draintheswamp at Nov 09, '16 04:39 | |
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Trump(worst) Note that I'm from Canada so I did not vote. However I truly wish Bernie had made it to the end. Trump is not a good man. He wants to ban all Muslims even though most Muslims a good people, he wants to give his children security clearance, he wants to repeal environmental protection laws. And that wall will cost tons of money to build and maintain, he is so bad that putin (the leader of russia) supports him. He appointed someone who does not believe that smoking gives people cancer, he is so bad that even people like Sarah Palin hate him. And considering that America still owes China lots of money so if he does not pay them ww3 will start. At least ww3 will be over resources so Canada won't be nuked which means countries will be forced to send troops over here while we develop nukes, chemical weapons, etc and completely decimate their countries. After all Canada doesn't need a big military when we have jtf-2, home field advantage, and the ability to destroy other countries since they will be unwilling to nuke us since it would destroy the resources in Canada they would want. |
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| Reply by: Mick at Dec 07, '16 00:40 | |
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We believe you. QQ though - any idea when this wall is definitely going to be built? |
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| Reply by: Cinnamon at Jul 14, '20 12:11 | |||
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I've never seen more ridiculous rhetoric in one place. Propaganda even. Facts matter. ALL Lives Matter. Back the Blue. Trump 2020 Mofos! |
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| Reply by: Monroe at Jul 25, '20 00:32 | |
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I'm interested to hear the facts that dispute the "ridiculous rhetoric" and "propoganda" preceding you, Munroe. You have my attention. Please, proceed. |
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| Reply by: Cinnamon at Jul 25, '20 01:12 | |
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We're screwed. The end |
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| Reply by: Johnny-McIver at Jul 25, '20 03:02 | |
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You can start with Mick Cinnamon. All total Bullshit. Media propaganda and rhetoric. And you if you think a wall isn't well under way. |
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| Reply by: Monroe at Jul 25, '20 20:19 | |
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I thought you had facts, Munroe? Care to share some of dem facts about how the wall is well under way? Because the way I remember it is like this: Pre-election, Trump promised a beautiful new wall that Mexico would definitely be paying for. Mexico assured the world that they definitely would not pay for it. After threatening to veto any spending bill which didn't include funding for the wall - causing the government to shut down - Trump declared a national emergency which required billions of dollars to be misappropriated to his shambolic wall fiasco... y'know, despite the fact that Mexico would still definitely be paying for it. In 2019 the Trump administration claimed they would "build 450-500 miles of new wall by the end of 2020", yet only 76 miles of wall has been reinforced or replaced as of today. Not one single block of new wall has been laid. Mexico has not contributed a single dollar. Donald maintains Mexico will definitely be paying for it. Do your facts differ from my facts? Cos I'm pretty confident mine are accurate. |
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| Reply by: Cinnamon at Jul 25, '20 22:00 | |
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Trump will get in again you watch :} |
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| Reply by: Xjxj at Jul 26, '20 00:48 | |
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Mexico may pay for the wall in other than the dollar way. Meaning Illegal emigrate wont be able to come and go and transfer U.S. funds to Mexico |
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| Reply by: Xjxj at Jul 26, '20 00:51 | |
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#JoForPresident The other candidates are fucking jokes |
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| Reply by: Dean at Jul 26, '20 01:09 | |
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Illegal immigrants are a net contributer to the tax systems in both the US and the UK.That's been proven exhaustively. Immigrants contribute more, and are less likely to seek government assistance - even assistance that would be considered basic human rights in any civilised society. Furthermore, economists predict that if US illegal citizens were to be granted legal status, the increase in wages, and therefore consumption, would significantly increase the GDP of the country as a whole. According to The economic contribution of unauthorized workers: An industry analysis, by Ryan Edwards and Francesc Ortega: "...legalization would increase the economic contribution of the unauthorized population by about 20%, to 3.6% of private-sector GDP." And just to give you an idea of the scale of money we're talking here - that's an increase of 0.6% of GDP. In 2019 Corporate Income Taxes as a whole raised 1.1% of GDP. But who needs an extra $125 billion dollars a year when you can keep believing that Mexico will build you a sweet new wall, right? |
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| Reply by: Cinnamon at Jul 26, '20 03:24 | |
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Cinnamon - whilst you make good points, with credible sources, with all due respect, you have failed to "read the room." Monroe and Xjxj, even if they were capable, do not want a political discussion. As with Brexit here in the UK, there exists an aggrieved bloc of people who simply vote to upset people, and to soothe their own set of greivances. Or, to be charitible, to return to a moment in time that never really existed anyway. Trump is crude, crass and totally unfit for high office. That is self-evident to anyone who understands how politics works. What is happening in Portland is only the latest example of his boorish, anti-democratic behaviour. But his, appropriately named, "base" love it. The "libs" are literally being tear-gassed and beaten, which is what they want. Doesn't matter to them that it's an abuse of federal power, anti-constitutional, that disabled vererans are amongst those attacked, that the economy is in ruins, the country is approaching 200k avoidable Covid deaths, and that the USA's enemies are watching this all with glee: "libs" are being owned, and this makes them feel good. Trump, a man who has lived a gilded life, has convinced working people to vote against their own interests. He is a gifted entertainer and communicator but, alas, federal and international politics requires a man of substance. Interestingly, and somewhat amusingly, in Russia, the political equivalents of Xjxj and Monroe and claiming that Covid was a CIA released virus. Every country has wingnuts and conspiracy theorists. But only the USA has a leader sufficiently removed from reality to actually believe the misinformation produced by bot factories and cranks. Trump might win this year. Or he might refuse to leave. Either way, it will take years to restore America's reputation. The UK and US stand humiliated on the international stage. Things will never be the same again. |
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| Reply by: Anton at Jul 26, '20 08:29 | |
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Indeed Anton. As Alfred once said "some men just wanna watch the world burn", and that kinda perfectly describes neoconservative policy in America. Heh. |
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| Reply by: Cinnamon at Jul 26, '20 10:50 | |
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There is no place for politics in the game even if this is outside. Besides Trump will be doing another 4 years for us and thats all that matters. |
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| Reply by: Hi-C at Jul 26, '20 16:12 | |
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