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| nO(bama) | Started by: Giorgio_Verrazano on Apr 18, '10 18:33 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw |
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I know what I'm talking about. I am a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of political science from Kent State University who graduated Summa Cum Laude. I also have a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Akron School of Law. That being said, this video is typical of much of the paranoid, conspiracy-theorist crap that is running amok in this country at the moment. I wish we could all just take a step back and be realistic for one second. No politician in this country is bent on destroying the United States. That goes for both sides of the aisle, whether you agree with their ideologies or not. Everyone is pushing for the policies which they feel are best for the country. It is fucking embarrassing the way some of you idiots carry on these days. Stop watching TV. Read a book. I honestly believe there is an epidemic of brains melting from overexposure to media that cares more about ratings than journalistic integrity (remember that?).
Not only is this video complete horseshit, it even has its conspiracies wrong. It is accusing our chief executive of propagating a fascist agenda and wishing to install mandatory military service. No, dummies, those are the conspiracy theories we use against Republicans! We are supposed to accuse the Democrats of propagating a worldwide communist plot and giving all the money to the poor!
That's about all the time and thought this horseshit deserves. It cannot even keep its conspiracy theories straight. Thomas Jefferson once said that the survival of a democracy depends on the education of its citizens. These days, in place of education, we have misinformation campaigns in which a handful of cretins accept as the truth. If you want to have a serious discussion about politics or public policy, first discard all the movie drama crap you've been digesting. Second, get an education past the high school level. Third, do some independent research of your own rather than listening to propaganda from extremists and wackjobs. If you can do that, you might be capable of holding an intelligent discussion.
You should honestly feel insulted by the people who distribute this crap. In essence, what they are saying is "I think you are stupid enough to believe this". Unfortunately, too often they are correct in that assumption. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Apr 18, '10 19:12 | |
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on the other hand how do you explain all this: |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:19 | |
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people also that the mob nolonger exist do you think that's true. hell i can't see oxygen but i know it's there because i'm still breathing, however since i can't see it's there or prove myself that it's there on my own should i say that it's not there. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:23 | |
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How do I explain that? More conspiracy theory nonsense. Some people are so infatuated with the idea of having "inside information" that they latch on to any crazy idea that someone comes up with. The United Nations, a part of a global tyranny scheme? Puh-lease. They have so little power that the Bush Administration was able to completely disregard their wishes and invade Iraq.
I would love to continue discussing politics with you, but you have to move on from conspiracy theories. That is not discussing politics. That is discussing fantasy.
That being said, much of what you said is correct. People participate in politics less and less. There has been a continual decline in political participation since the 1950's. (Read "Bowling Alone"). Both major political parties implement similar programs. Those in power may abuse their power, but not in an intentionally destructive way. They do it for personal financial gain, if at all. They are not all members of a secret society.
My senior thesis in political science was on the possibilities of implementing a proportional representation system in the United States, much like the system in place in Japan. Until that happens, we will be stuck with a two-party system. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Apr 18, '10 19:29 | |
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Okay, here's a book for you flyingpig...Jesse Ventura, American Conspiracies...Instead of being so ritcheous in your "New School" taught ways and allowing yourself to be so nieve, that you can boldly point fingers and call others idiots. You take a step back and realize that your no Rockefeller, your no Kenedy and you know dick squat about the true "powers" of this country. You keep on getting those degrees as I see it's done you a lot of good... |
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| Reply by: Alfonce at Apr 18, '10 19:30 | |
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Wow, Alfonce. You're saying that my training in political science means nothing. If it means nothing, then what DOES make someone an authority on the subject? I base my statements on my education, training, personal experience in politics, and independent research. What do you base your theories on?
I know dick squat about the real powers in this country? You know what? You are a fucking jackass. You call getting an education "New school taught ways"? No, you fucking idiot. It's called HAVING AN EDUCATION. It is what makes people qualified to work in their respective fields! It's not "new school". You are saying that getting an education puts you at a disadvantage.
Seriously, that was about the stupidest shit I have seen in ages. Go to your room. You are not allowed to speak anymore. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Apr 18, '10 19:41 | |
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You can't refernce Venture's book and except anyone to take you seriously. |
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| Reply by: Falcon at Apr 18, '10 19:44 | |
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I could have said that also, Falcon, but nothing that he said allows him to be taken seriously. Even without the book reference. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Apr 18, '10 19:45 | |
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Wow dis you not read how about it put it here for you. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:45 | |
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Fair point Flying Pig.
Gio, do you even understand what you're copying and pasting. You sound like a rambling idiot, drinking the Kool Aid that conspiracy theories nuts want you to believe. |
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| Reply by: Falcon at Apr 18, '10 19:51 | |
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There are several positions that are unelected. Cabinet members, federal court judges and justices, ambassadors, agency heads, the list goes on and on. The UN has seen its power continually decrease, not increase.
As far as educating the young to see a global mindset, I think the evidence clearly indicates that is false. It is true that the young are a bit misinformed (those are both good books, see also: Lies my Teacher Told Me), but the misinformation is typically more to indoctrinate a Nationalistic mindset, not a Globalist mindset. For example, in the United States we learn about the horrors of Nazi Germany, and Adolph Hitler is seen as the worst person in history. Very little is said about the horrors commited by Andrew Jackson and the near-genocide of the Native Americans, which make the holocaust seem like a Sunday picnic. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Apr 18, '10 19:52 | |
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As a matter of fact i do but you on the other hand seem to have no opinion at all did you just stop by to bash or state your educated or researched view. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:52 | |
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And yeah i'm drinking kool aid. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:53 | |
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that is true as well Mr. Pig great point. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:54 | |
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However I'm not sure about this but jackson did try to get rid of the privatly owned banks I'm not to okay with most of america's money being controled by rich guys in cabin's. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 19:55 | |
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While I'm not the biggest fan of the current administration, I don't hate everything they have done either. Obama is a far cry from the antichrist, but like every other politician, he only wants to push his agenda and what he thinks is best. |
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| Reply by: Falcon at Apr 18, '10 19:57 | |
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The current banking system, however flawed, is also a great improvement over where we were a century ago. You worry about our money being controlled by a handful of rich guys. Well, that is nothing new. It's always been that way. The difference is that a century ago, before antitrust laws, the income gap was much greater than it is today. After the Great Depression, Roosevelt created the FDIC, which insures our banking deposits. It has never been more safe to use the American banking system than it is today. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Apr 18, '10 19:59 | |
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I can respect that Falcon but his agenda just seems to globalistic to me, when you add it up with everybody elses. they start with a shock factor so that we can flock to them, 9/11 then they use that power we give them to their advantage and push thier global agenda. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 20:04 | |
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As far as the banking system goes I'm not talking about our banks we use on an everyday basis. I'm speaking about the Federal Reserve which has nothing to do with the government at all. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio_Verrazano at Apr 18, '10 20:07 | |
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