And when people say there's no way curruption can exist or that occult groups don't exist it just shows more and more how succesful they are and to make it so that you think it's a lie here is a breakdown of the Elite's stratagy.

One very important aspect of world control is exactly how does one go about controlling and dominating a society, or for that matter the world as a whole. Anthony Sutton spelled it out quite well in his book "America's Secret Establishment". He exposed the fact that the global elite came to the correct conclusion that to control and manipulate a society for their benefit they need to control only a certain finite aspects of society. These are:

•Education (how the population of the future will behave)
•Money (the means of holding wealth and exchanging goods)
•Law (the authority to enforce the will of the state, a world law and a world court is needed for a world state)
•Politics (the direction of the State and Economy)
•History (what people believed happened in the past)
•Psychology (the means of controlling how people think)
•Philanthropy (so that people think well of the controllers)
•Medicine (the power over health, life and death)
•Religion (people's spiritual beliefs)
•Media (what people know and learn about current events)
•Continuity (the power to appoint who follows in your footsteps)

What this amounts to is nothing less than infiltrating and controlling the power centers of a society. By placing their own people in key positions they could come to control and dominate a society completely and steer it in any direction they choose.
His observations are well made and reflected, and expanded upon slightly, in the categories on this site. Take a minute an think about it - what would you do if you wanted to gain control of an entire society?

Now I have to give it to them they are doing a damn good job!

It's true, those are all tools to control popular opinion. They have been used since the days of ancient Rome. It is one thing for the author to discuss methods of control. It is another thing completely to assert that these ancient methods of control are being used to create a global power structure.

Education is used in this country to perpetuate a sense of nationalistic pride. (Known as "political indoctrination". It's why we think our country is the best in the world, and why North Koreans think THEIR country is best in the world, and every other country for that matter.)

Money is used to perpetuate wealth. It is a function of private citizens. It is no coincidence that the wealthy have offspring who also become wealthy. It takes wealth to create wealth.

Law is used to enforce the will of a a majority of the people on the whole of society.

History is similar to education. We teach a filtered view of history to indoctrinate national pride.

Psychology is used to sway popular opinion. Election year is rife with manipulating the psyche. Fear was used as a tool for generating consent post-9/11.

Philanthropy - Meh, people do it for many reasons. Some of which is for the reasons stated above.

Religion - "The opiate of the masses". It is the oldest control mechanism in the world. Regardless of whether you believe your religious faith, you cannot deny that it has the impact of controlling our actions. However, this can hardly be blamed on any current government, since it has its roots since the beginning of time.

Media - Oh, fuck. The media has gone off the deep end. It is very difficult to find the truth these days. The media used to be considered the fourth check and balance on government. That was back in the days when they held our politicians accountable. These days, they only care about the next scandal, not about what is actually happening on the House and Senate floor. That being said, you cannot really say that the media is being used as a tool to propagate a global ideology, when various media outlets in THIS COUNTRY ALONE are not even on the same page when it comes to their perception of events.

Continuity - We still decide who runs for public office through primary elections. Too bad so few people vote, or there might be better ballot access for lesser-knowns.

No flying pig, I am saying that you calling other's idiot's based on your education is in fact representing the "New School" term I used. If you beleive our educational system in this country is that great?? Well, I beg to differ. Unfortunately, it is the core of an even bigger problem in this country. Bigger than any conspiracy theory out there. I don't doubt your booksmart's one bit. I do however doubt that any governmental regulated system will teach you what is the basis of this thread. And for the record, Jesse Ventura is no idiot, nor are the people who back him in his book. The basis of what I read, (maybe I need glasses?) is factually based and not just some nobodies rambling on about space ships on the Art Bell show...

Obama raped me.

(This is the greatest thread I have ever read. I'm going to encourage everyone to please keep posting in this. Thanks.)

Jesse Ventura may be no idiot, but it's a bit of a chuckle taking the word of a wrestler and color commentator dead on without a grain of salt.

That must be what the whole state of MN did when electing him governor...For one, he is a Navy veteran, my father is a navy veteran who served 3 tours in Veitnam. My grandfather, WW 2 veteran... not a jukebox hero, or an rpg hero, real hero's who have seen and survived more in this country than most of todays generations will ever have to face. Now, I am not here to get hung up on 1 pigeon holed subject such as a book or it's author. The reference I made to the book is a direct reflection of what Mr. Verrazano has posted here. With the point being that it's not recognizable by any one organization, by any one topic of discussion, and for that matter any one president. It is history that tells the tale.

 The term "New World Order" is nothing new..... There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of  laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

This is the basic principals behind this term. If you do not think that in the last 100 years the US hasn't been working towards this, then you need to wake up and smell the coffee. No, you won't be taught this at your college, no you won't be made to beleive it in any way shape or form from our government or any of it's bodies. You can see it how you want as that is one civil right we still controll, but to sit back and think that it's not happening or hasn't is the reason why it will continue. 

Jessie Ventura is cook and I absolutely don't think he believes in these conspiracy theories. He uses them to make money just like Al Gore with his global warming green scheme. Here's Jessie Ventura getting confronted by Jim Norton on the Opie and Anthony show. Notice how he throws out all the stock conspiracy lines but when Norton doesn't just accept them and challenges them he has no answers. Eventually he gets frustrated and walks off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvKgj_EjUDw

I don't want to trash the fact that the guy did serve in the Navy, that's very admirable, however it's less admirable that way he misleads people into thinking he is actually a combat veteran. He never saw combat during Vietnam and he wasn't ever even stationed in the country at any point. It's a bit insulting to people like my father who spent 2 years in Vietnam, who saw alot of combat, and had to watch alot of his friends die around him.

Let me just say that I respect Jesse Ventura. He's more than just a wrestler. That being said, you did not say earlier what your reference was in relation to. I am not familar with his book, so simply throwing out a title does not lend any weight to your argument.

A couple of things you mention have been actual trends. For example, the shrinking middle class (or income gap, as I referenced earlier) has been a phenomenon in the United States for the last fifty years. It is not so evident in other countries. The average corporate CEO in the U.S. makes 450 times the salary of the average laborerer for the same company. That ratio in other countries in the world is around 50:1. Taking a shrinking middle class in one country and extrapolating it into a global trend is more than just a stretch of farsighted speculation. A global welfare state and firearms prohibited? There are no trends to even justify such speculation. The few remaining communist countries are exhibiting more capitalist tendencies each year. As far as guns, I think we stand a better chance of seeing ketchup outlawed. I'm also going to assume that if your predictions come true, those "rebellious outlaws" who are "a target for anyone who wishes to kill them" will have to be killed with knives or boomerangs, since guns are prohibited in your future world.

Like I said earlier, I think people are drawn to the idea of having "inside information" that others are oblivious to. Certainly, there are globalists, but to stretch that into a worldwide conspiracy is just fucking nutty.

If you actually want something factual to support your theory, do some research on PNAC (Plan for a New American Century). That's about as close as you are going to come to finding legitimate evidence of a takeover scheme. Conspiracy nuts on YouTube don't count as legitimate sources in academic research. Most of them are failures who are trying desperately to be validated by being pioneers in political theory. The problem is that their theories have about as much support as the Flat Earth Society.

I hear that FP ut no way I'm going to believe that the illuminatti dont exist. The proof is there it's just up to us to see it. I rather think it and it not be true; than to not think it and it be true.