miscontruded that way.

let me be the first to appologise,if you are mentally scared by my remarks,i thought a thicker skin like your self may be able to take, evidentaly this is not the case for that i do appologise.

i am not niave,nor am i unseasoned in this life nearly a decade of familly line runs around these shores some more glorified thatn others.No dishonour has  gone on here nor have i made an ass out of myself,if you make a speech then like mine as you have done you expect oppinions,and for people to pick out certain points that other people will miss and so on.

i speak as i see, im the first to admitt my less than amazing prowess in the streets,but hell ill give it a go.

To stress this point again,my speech was not ment as a personal attack to you,it was purley based on hearing your speech,but by all means you can call me Mr mouth im open for that.

much respect

ass-to-mouth

Firstly, I am not a Capo of SpaceMountain. I am the Boss of Los Angeles and I run our day to day activities for the Godfather, with three Capos who work for me.

Secondly, Alf-The-Mouth is not a "little person". He is a man who has served this city faithfully and loyally for longer than you and your father combined. He also partook in the war effort, just because you personally, a Goomba working for SpaceMountain, don't know in what capacity that occurred, does not mean that he was idle the entire time. In fact I personally received commendation for his performance during the conflict from a highly reputable member of Cosa Nostra. But I suppose that wouldn't fit in with your disrespectful attack.

A point that you should have considered is that in Los Angeles we show respect upon the basis of the rank people have earned, as a minimum. This is due to the significance of these ranks and what they should tell you about the individual who has been given them. More than that, my man Alf-The-Mouth has been given the rank of Boss - by me. This should tell you everything that you need to know. He has proved himself. He has made his bones. He has continued to be successful as a Capo. He has personally raised two other members and helped them to make their bones within Los Angeles, something that you are yet to do. If you understand nothing else about me or this family, you should know that I do not hand out promotions. I take them extremely seriously and as a result those I entrust with those promotions are worthy of your respect. By disrespecting one of my Bosses, you're disrespecting me.

I won't tolerate disrespect, especially not from a Goomba within my own city.

To move this back on topic:

"Rogues", as I believe Hoopi said earlier, refer to people who have bought out of their family without authorization from their Boss and have established a headquarters for personal reasons. This term is not employed for those who do so under the authority of their Don, as they are acting under orders and are therefore not independent of their family. Therefore, rogues are people who have broken their blood oaths to their family and they should know the consequences for that. There is nothing considered more of an insult and a betrayal in our way of life than this.

The only redemption for a 'rogue' is complete success, as only power brings legitimacy to the act. If anyone bought out, purchased a HQ and wiped all the existing families out, then who is left to condemn their betrayal? Nobody. However, their act is highly insulting to Cosa Nostra and what it stands for. As a result not only are these people a threat due to their intentions, they are an insult to our way of life. They are often then felt to be the enemy of all established families, rather than any one individual.

~G~warble.

Really good points were taken in this discussion.

But one point is missing. Being a mafioso it's not just living outside the system but creating an organised way of making your life and build something, a society outcasts like us can live in.

When someone goes rogue he is just disregarding everything about our community, our way of doing things and our structure. He is just being a common criminal, what our leaders despise, because, as someone said, they are unpredictable and have no honor.

When a take over happens they are playing according a set of rules a rogue does not follow, the leaders are intending to build something and fighting for beliefs rather than power, a rogue is just pulling a thrigger.

That's why he pursuit rogues and do not see take overs with the same eyes.

<em>The dark Ghostly apparition of a Sith spirit materializes in the street and cackles loudly, blue-white electricity coursing over its non-corporeal, translucent body.</em>

Thanks for clarifying your point Gwarble. Yes I guess I got it wrong. You are obviously the Boss of LA, I was just making a general reference to you rather than making a business directory of positions in LA. It was a minor oversight in the grand scheme of things, but one that obviously annoyed you greatly. Perhaps you time as editor and publisher of the Barble has thinned your skin when it comes to taking apparent insults rather than dishing them out.

Alf the Mouth is a very little person. just because you have promoted him and he does as ordered does not make him anything else. No original thoughts, a handful of HQ posts, a failed attempt to tear a strip of me in the streets. I guess the Barble would call him a No Name C. Perhaps when he dies he can win an award for it in your rag. He could not have served LA longer than my Father and I together, as we all arrived in LA at the same time. He may have served you for longer, and prior to LA served Deimne through you, but that is all. The fact that he managed to live a little longer than me and my father is just luck. This also brings me back to him being a little man. He served LA longer than my Father and I, yet my Father managed to make it to Don in less time it took ATM to earn Boss? I think that helps back up my assessment of him as a little man.

I never once mentioned his role in the war; I simply asked what sacrifices he had made. Are you sure you are totally happy with his role? After all you were so quick to jump to the defence of a man in a way for which he had not been insulted. As for my disrespectful attack, well your man started it, I merely defended myself in the same manner I had been attacked. Perhaps if you kept a closer reign on the more stupid members of your crew then they wouldn't get torn to pieces in the streets. In life I had a pet that was fascinated by fire. No matter how many times it got burned it always returned to the fire. I bought a fire guard to protect my pet because I loved it and didn't want it to keep getting burned. I didn't just put out the fire.

<blockquote>A point that you should have considered is that in Los Angeles we show respect upon the basis of the rank people have earned, as a minimum. This is due to the significance of these ranks and what they should tell you about the individual who has been given them. </blockquote>

Again I come back to the fact that your man was the first to show disrespect. What you are saying is that it is ok for a high ranker to show absolutely no respect to anyone under him, even a fellow member of the same city and a member of the Godfather's personal family, but at the same time to expect respect from those below him. This reminds me of a young Gwarble who insulted everyone in the streets in his paper, disrespecting all publically, most of whom were of a far higher rank. Because you apparently did this in jest it made it ok, but in fact it did not. What of those who did not know of your relationship with the people you insulted, and took it at face value? Regardless of that fact I remind you of something my young Padawan Premeir- said:

<blockquote>Did he deserve respect? He surely did before all of that, one bad choice over shadows 100 good ones

He might have once been a respectful man but that is all gone. .</blockquote>


Rank and position obviously means nothing to you as you so readily gave it to a man with no sense or intelligence. A man who insults his own family in public and then complains when they retaliate. 

Next point you made was that he had personally made his bones and raised two individuals within Los Angeles. My Father had done the same, but lost his associates to the rest of the LA families when he was selected to personally serve the Godfather. As boss of LA you are well aware that members of the Godfather's personal crew are unable to have associates. I myself was also a member of that personal crew, and therefore also unable to have associates, once my rank had allowed me to otherwise recruit them. You then return to emphasising my disrespect, and how it in turn shows disrespect to you. In this at least we can agree. However, as stated, your man disrespected me first. Called into question the service of my father to Godfather SpaceMountain. This means that your man disrespected the Godfather and yourself both, as again I pointed out in my speech. 

It's nice to see that you have such exacting standards when it comes to members of the Godfather's direct family but not your own. You might not tolerate respect from Goombas, but you are certainly down with it from bosses.

<em>His points made, the spirit of Palpatine fades from the streets.</em>

My Father

This is slightly confusing, given the fact that Palpatine's direct descendent is alive and well over in New York at the moment. Be gone you little weasel.

Your father (or Palpatine if you aren't his descendant) was a no name Goomba who had no understanding of when to keep his mouth shut.

I shut it for him.

Responding to an earlier call from Hoopi in LA, Tyrion interrupted his Sunday routine to come and add a clarifier.

Hoopi has the right of it. A_Sith_Ghost, whoever you are, you certainly are not the person you are claiming to be. And, I would imagine you will have an even shorter life that he did. Its sad and pathetic to impersonate someone else in an effort to live off their reputation. Blessed be the cretinous, that our entertainment should never run dry.

I am astounded at what this imposter managed to accomplish in a single outburst.

What did he manage to accomplish exactly?

He's achieved a bullet, nothing more.

Oh I don't know Mr. Gwarble, I never had 3 suits reply to me as a civilian. Nor have I seen anyone come out here as an imposter and live this long. All quite astounding.

Sam smiles that winning smile of his.

That seems like a pretty lame achievement there, Sylvestro.

Sam listens as an LA Boss calls him out on his words. You are a shrewd man Mr. Sureshot. I don't think many people would have called me out on my response to Mr. Gwarble. You correctly point out that I mentioned mere achievements. Truth be told, replies from the powerful and simply living are achievements. An accomplishment implies a successful conclusion, as in "mission accomplished." It means to end something, to see a goal through to a successful conclusion. Or to cause an end to something. I clearly listed some lame achievements and called them astounding and for that I apologize to everyone listening. What did this sith character bring to an end? What mission did he accomplish? Only he can know if his own goals were met. As for me, he ended a bit of speculation through his actions not his words, I am not inclined to expound on the obvious. I think my words were clear enough to begin with but I hope this response clears up any ambiguity.

Proclaiming to be the direct relative to a recently deceased member is hardly a reason to wack a -48 civilian. Despite the reaches this person made to make a vague point, there is no reason to shoot them.

Anselmo takes a closer look at the imposter A_Sith_Ghost's shirt. It reads "I give permission to anyone to kill me when I turn into a gangster."

Why would anyone need your permission to kill you once you become a Gangster, you unsponsored rube? Quit flattering yourself!

Anselmo shakes his head and walks away, picking Falcon's pocket as he passes him. He lifts $10,000 off of him, twice the amount an average Mafioso is capable of pickpocketing.

McCall steps from the shadows, apparently having been stood there all along. The light highlighting his features but leaving the rest of him still cloaked in mystery.

How sweet it is to see my father, whilst dead and rotting in the ground, has found a way to project his spirit back to our world. How sweet it is also to find that he hs got his priorities well sorted also. Many, if given the power to return from the grave would perhaps visit their own grave, or their relatives, but apparently not my father, who is more interested in stiring up a hornets nest than the welfare of his own son. This wuld seem to me to be nothing more than cheap parlour tricks by someone who a) does not know that the Son of Palpatine happily lives in New York as Hoopi has said, and b) does not have the balls, or testicular fortitude as my Grandfather would have said, to speak his own words.

And yes Gwarble, this is not the son of Palpatine, or even the son of Chris Vaughn. It is nothinmg more than a cheap light show and smoke screen.

McCall watches for a second before returning to the shadows one more.

Glad to hear it.