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Playing Favorites? Started by: HannibalLecter on Dec 19, '10 15:57

Hello fellow mafioso, I come here today to ask your opinions on how todays Leadership is chosen. Yes I know this is a very controversial topic. Some believe one thing and others believe another. 

My opinion is that the current leadership is picked not always by how hard they worked or what they've done for the family. It is by who knows who and if you're a good friend with somebody who is currently a leader. I'm not saying that there aren't those out there who haven't earned it or worked hard and got Auth from a leader who saw this. But there are also leaders out there currently and in the past running this thing of ours that got there by it being given to them. You can clearly trace through some people's bloodlines and see that they have been authed time and time again. They sometimes got it as soon as they got to Made Man. You can usually notice these fellows right off the bat when they join this thing of ours and they are walking around with an army of bodyguards as a Petty Thief.

Now don't take this as I'm saying every leader is picked just because they are a friend and I'm not talking about their RHM or LHM. I'm just speaking about the leaders. So if you're a RHM or a LHM don't take offense to something that isn't directed at you. 

I'm not coming out here to say everyone that is a leader didn't do shit to earn it. Even if their friend authed them they still had to rank up. But still a lot of auths probably would be more deserved to many others than some who get it. Especially those who get it over and over again, even when they screwed up as a leader in the past. Do you really think they won't screw it up again? Because I've seen that happen many times. So that is a clear show that people aren't always chosen because they show they can be a leader. Its just because they have connections.

If you want to come out here and say that I am totally wrong then you're probably oblivious to the facts and the things that happen right in front of your eyes. I believe that this is clearly a problem within this thing of ours. I know there is nothing I can do about it but I wish that thins would change a little. Maybe have some people given the chance to run a family. I'm not saying give it some random guy off the street but somebody who is working real hard for the family but never had the chance to run a family. Or send him off with somebody as a RHM to get a little experience and then hand him the reigns and see what he can really do.

I know that this is done. But I don't believe it is done enough. Not even close to enough. But hey, I can't change that. I can only put out my opinion and hope that this will get through to some. I hope that maybe there are some that have the same opinion as me and maybe somebody will make some change. To make it so this thing of ours is actually more like the real mafia. To have people starting up business that want to give it a shot. To just have some what are called rogues allowed to work up to owning an HQ and starting up a family if they want as long as they don't start attacking the other families. 

I think that if that were allowed to happen you would see some more fresh faces leading families. This would be a great sight for sore eyes. 

I don't quite understand why every family in a city has to be authed by the Godfather or that every family has to come from one of the families that reside there. That isn't like the mafia at all. There should be different regimes in each city. Running their own business and trying to come out on top. And if one family wants to take on the other then so be it. But just because there is another family in the city you don't have to take them out. To have it be like the real mafia. That would make this thing of ours more interesting and even more realistic.

I know that a lot of you would say that there shouldn't be any other families in your city that you didn't auth because they might try to kill you. Well isn't that a real part of being in the mafia? Yeah it is. But many of you in my opinion would say that because you're scared of getting killed and having to start over again. I'm not saying that all people are against that because they are scared but most probably are. Others it is probably just because they are used to the way things are and don't like change. But I say that there should be some change. It would definitely make things more interesting. So with that I leave you to ponder and maybe state your own opinions on the subject.

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Praecpes looks around before stepping foreward.

You know, you do have a point. A number of our leaders are chosen simple because of their bloodlines and who teir daddy was friends wit.

So what? You want to change how our leaders make their decision? Take a city, shoot all challengers and then you can auth who ever you want. Maybe you can even influence other auths by taking out anyone you don't like.

You can't manage that? Well, I guess you're stuck with the way the system is now. The people in power are just that: IN POWER. That power gives them the right to make whatever decisions they want until someone with more power takes that right from them.Get over it, it's how our world works.

Thank you for stating your opinion, though.

Praeceps steps quietly back and continues about his day.

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Looks up from eating some cheesy nachos

Thank you for your statement. Next!

 

Looks back down as he eats his nachos. The book signing appointment just started and he already had a customer. This should be a smash hit. Licks the cheese off his fingers and looks up waiting for another person.

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I have to agree with you. There are a few bloodlines that i hope never get the chance again, notably gaylordfocker, QTR, And TSA to name a few. Just because some ones parents were good leaders, or friends of the boss's doesnt mean their offspring will be good leaders. Its not good for morale making a civy straight off the boat a RHM or LHM. I think it would be nice to see some fresh faces get a chance. All im saying is if you have a Don in your family whos worked really hard and proven themselves they should be given a chance, not just over looked for your BFF.

 

With that said. The ones with the powers make the rules. Are all the rules fair, hell no. But they are the rules and its the price we pay to conduct buiscness in the streets.

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Claps like a mad man foam forming at his mouth

 

Bravo! Bravo! Very good. I see we have someone here that is somewhat past the stages of ape hood. But yes I must agree on that. I wish Che or Fidel Castro was here. 

 

Shrugs his shoulders. Sees a baby and signs his name on its forehead. Then he sees the mums breasts. He signs across them with a big heart in the middle of his name. 

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Those civilians that are fresh off the boat who instantly become hands to powerful leaders are hands for a reason. They're known to be sound, reliable people who the boss trust. The boss will have known their bloodlines going back, otherwise they just wouldnt be made hands and put into positions of power. When you're not around, you want a reliable person to hold down the fort. Who better to put in that position than someone youve worked with before and someone you know you can trust.

My bloodline has lead three crews, and recently I lead the city of Detroit. My RHM and LHM where men I trusted beyond belief, guys I have known for many bloodlines. They've always been on the same page with me, and I was on the same page with them. It takes time to build that kind of trust with a member of your crew that youve had no prior knowledge of. Before Detroit was taken down, I authed four new crewleaders, bloodlines who had never been crew leaders before. This took many months of hard work and relationship building before I allowed them to set up shop. I dont regret it at all, and if I where to ever be in that position again, I would do it without a moments hesitation. They proved they where worthy to lead crews and educate the new faces coming to our world.


As for your slander of Quoth_the_Raven, he was a great friend, and by all accounts, a great crew leader. His family enjoyed working for him, and he offered his city all he could offer. There is no reason in this world that his bloodline should be denied future chances at leadership.

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"There are a few bloodlines that i hope never get the chance again, notably gaylordfocker, QTR, And TSA to name a few."

Just for the record I would love. That's right LOVE. to see GaylordFocker's bloodline back up in a position of power. He is and will always remain a friend of mine so please do not slander him. 

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I shall ignore the fact that most of what is said here is complete jibber jabber.

So, onto the points raised. First, real mafia? This is the REAL MAFIA. I dont know about you, but if I rode into New York and started trying to run a business without first asking permission from those in charge of the area, pretty sure I would end up dead. Its no different around these streets. If I had such a death wish it would be fairly easy for me to attempt that here, but im rather fond of being one of the living.

As for relatives of other leaders then being a leader.. Whats your problem with that? So you didn't like them last time and the person screwed up? So? People change, times change. Maybe if they screw up again they'll learn from it, maybe not. Dont like em, dont join em. Simple really.

Now onto the real point, you can't do anything to change the rules... What makes you think that? Sure, crying/debating it in the middle of the street isn't going to change things at all. But if you feel so strongly about it, why not mosey on over to an empty city and attempt to run it? Oh thats right, because of what we said above, folks will kill you. That doesn't mean you can't try though, does it? That just means you dont believe in your own ability to pull it off.

Lastly, I take issue with the point about bodyguards. There is nothing wrong with trying to look after the kin of your friends. If my man Jose Chavez died the first thing i'd do when his kid enters the world is to make sure he knows I have his back. Sure, I dont hve the financial clout to hire a team of trained soldiers to protect him, but if I did, i'd do it. Why? Because thats what you do when you have the ability to do it, you help out your friends and their family. It only makes sense to do this when their young, as the bodyguards around these parts dont charge as much to look after the little ones.

So, I hope you dont take "issue" with the fact I think everything you've pointed out isn't a problem, but is in fact the way a mafioso should live. I also hope you dont assume i'm some ass kissing numpty thats blind to how things operate around these parts. I know there are family members given the Auth simply because of who they are, I also know that most, yes I said most, of these people work damn hard to get thier family back into a position power, so why shouldnt they be rewarded for that??

Thats all for now.

~ Doc

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Looks up from the line of coke hes about to do.

Mark. But what about the man that has been working for your crew since you opened up and who has generated over 40 million in profits? Would you not give him a chance? Yes your friend might be sad. But leave that bullshit aside. Others must be given a chance. As you see there are many people here in this country. With many Mafia families in almost every city. Theres probably a new bloodline out there who could be better than your friend.In regards to the Quoth the raven. He died for what he believed in. Lets keep the bull shit out of this conversation so that bullshit doesn't ruin it.

 

Leans down and finishes the line. He yells "I'm a clown and I do cocaineeeee." Wait.. Thats in a different life where I say that..

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And just to touch on what Mr Madsen said.. QTR's family line have always been held in high regard by me and I would like to echo those sentiments. Clearly you have a grudge against the man as he did nothing to warrant such a slanderous remark against his name.

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My point was that a civillian hasnt proven themselves. I think if i were in that postion of power i would know the people in my crew especially anyone above capo. So that if a death had occured id be able to quickly institute a new hand. Isnt that the point of promoting people within your crew? so that you groom them hopefully to one day one a crew of their own? And in that grooming process, while they progress through rank, should you atleast get to know the person your promoting? You are after all putting them in a postion of power and they do rep your family moreso than the lower ranks. so wouldnt it make sense to have compitent and trust worthy individuals in your higherstructure, not just people who earn you X amount of money a day? Everything you said can be easily solved by taking a little interest and thought in your family, instead of just being lazy and collecting money and making sure no one shoots themselves in the foot.

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Earnings dont equal trust. Dont be fooled. You can earn all the cash in the world, that doesnt mean you and I are going to form a trusting relationship where Im going to put you into a postion of power just because youve made the family alot of money. It requires so much more than just earnings, or killing a certain number of people.

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Yells towards the guards

Please escort this man named Doc inside. There is no need for people pissing on my parade. They can as long as I have a rain coat and a umbrella.

Someone throws the said items towards him.

Ah. Thank you. May the pissing on my parade begin!

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Oh.. (why cant I think it all out at once?)

Isn't the Irony lost on you, given that you currently work for someone thats been made a leader countless times and had a large number of bodyguards since he got off the boat?

Nothing against Prem, I know  he works for it and has the trust of those in power in chicago. But isn't it a bit of a slap in the face to your boss bringing such a topic to the streets and basically saying everything he has done since getting off the boat isn't on merit, but rather blood? hmm.

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Hey now. Why do you want to discredit me? Only bad people would say such things. Thats very rude. If I was singling out one Crew Leader from another I would. 

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Discredit you? No need. Simply pointing out the obvious.

Surely you came out here to discuss the point? Not to simply try and force your view on everyone?

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MR. Madsen i believe thats what i was saying. If you actually took time to get to know people in your family and talk to them and too some form of interest in what theyre doing on a daily basis, youd be able to trust the higher archy of your family structure.

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Well honestly Josiah I just wanted to type up something and see what everyone thought. Hey you idiot boy! Stop with the arguing over who was good and who was shitty. Alright? Do it again the Gods will strike you down

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Very well. I've said my two cents. I shall move along the street for now.

Doc lights up a cigar as climbs back onto his horse and heads off down the street in search of some juicy pockets to dip into

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Wonders why people ride horses anymore.

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