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| Jail Etiquette | Started by: Adebayor on Mar 20, '08 00:58 |
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1. Not a racist, thanks. Me calling you my master was in no way racism, it was pointing out that you're treating me like your personal slave. 2. You would shoot my ass. You tried to shoot my father before having him HQ'd, so don't fucking sit here and lie. |
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| Reply by: Finlandia at Mar 20, '08 02:50 | |
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Snake_Eyes, where did I say I didn't think you could join a jailbreak? Seriously? Did I ever say that? No. That's the correct answer. Had you answered "no", no doubt there would be ringing bells, some confetti, and perhaps a cash prize or new car. What I did say was that it would be polite that you leave highly guarded members for those that actually bought the jail. Again, that's my opinion. You'll be hard pressed in finding where I told you you HAD to do that. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 02:52 | |
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| Sorry I got confused when you never answered me when I said I dont go and break out highly guarded right away, and must of taken that as a no!!! | |
| Reply by: Snake_Eyes at Mar 20, '08 02:53 | |
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1. Not a racist, thanks. Me calling you my master was in no way racism, it was pointing out that you're treating me like your personal slave. Anyone who relates slavery to anything spoken in the streets is a racist in my book. This world has nothing to do with that day and time. 2. You would shoot my ass. You tried to shoot my father before having him HQ'd, so don't fucking sit here and lie. I follow orders, as I've explained loud and clear. If you want to hold a grudge, then so be it. I do as I'm told because I am not a leader...something that everyone (in my opinion) should attempt to do. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 02:54 | |
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Honestly, this has no effect on me as I'm not a JBer. But Ade, hell will completely freeze over before I ever take orders from you. Threaten me all you like, call me a racist and try to get the gods to strike me down all you like, the fact of the matter is you're a control freak. You want to tell everyone how to live and you can go get bent. I will never follow an order you give me. You don't like people breaking you out of jail? Occam's razor says that the simplest solution is to not get thrown IN jail, not try to make this some sort of Utopian-for-people-who-bend-over-for-Abe society. Go live your own fucking life, let me live mine. We'll never have to meet again and god that would make me so incredibly happy you just don't even know. And no, I don't hold a grudge against you. I have to care about you to hold a grudge. I don't care about you. I don't hate you. I nothing you. You are no more to me than an annoying little bug. |
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| Reply by: Finlandia at Mar 20, '08 02:59 | |
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And yet, not once will you ever find me threatening you, nor attempting to rule you. You'll never find me saying "Do this" or "Do that"...and you didn't see me do it tonight. As for my opinions, I don't mind sharing them freely. Why shouldn't I? As for not holding a grudge. It's good to see Jerusalem's lineage finally moving on and maybe even growing up a little...even if he does bring up the fact that I missed on his daddy after only a handful of shots, over and over and over and over again. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 03:03 | |
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| You know what I am sorry this got this far. All I can say is I disagree with you, my first reply I did not think was disrespectful. But you must admit some of things you said did sound like threats and I still hold firm that they are! | |
| Reply by: Snake_Eyes at Mar 20, '08 03:04 | |
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| Ade I suggest you drop this, its in the best interests of everyone. | |
| Reply by: Snake_Eyes at Mar 20, '08 03:05 | |
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Racist? Maybe, maybe not, but definately ignorant. Speaking in the dialect of a stereotypical pre-civil war plantation slave (You didn't say "master", you said "massa") and likening ANYTHING that happens here or is spoken in conversation as being comparable in ANY way, shape, or form to the horrors, cruelty, and inhumanity of slavery is completely offensive to a race of people who suffered, and continue to suffer from the sociological side effects of being persecuted, tortured, and dehumanized is at least in poor taste. Comparing anything here to slavery minimizes its significance. It is similar to saying something along the lines of "the holocaust never happened". On another note, I don't see what is so important here to justify getting so worked up. Take your ritalin and log off for a little while. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Mar 20, '08 03:06 | |
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I didn't say it wasn't offensive. That's the whole point of why I said it. It's offensive to you. Being treated like my only purpose in life is to serve you and be your personal bitch is offensive to me. So I apologize going for the shock value. But don't ever *ever* presume for one second you can tell me what to do. |
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| Reply by: Finlandia at Mar 20, '08 03:09 | |
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Jail & Etiquette = OxyMORON.... If you don't like that others are breaking out the higher ranks because your ass is stuck in jail then DON'T pay for a crackdown. Either that, or wait for a time like now to set it up. Its called strategy which is part of the game. If you don't like it, and don't want to get used to it how do you expect to be successful with anything in life? |
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| Reply by: Seroquel at Mar 20, '08 03:14 | |
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I actually support that idea Seroquel. This is why I've halted all crackdowns for anyone other than personal friends. I know of others that are following this trend, due to this very subject matter. However, it is sad that it's come to this, no? Snake_Eyes, care to clarify what is in my best interests? Care to spell out what I MUST do? As for Finlandia, there is no defense for your ignorant words. Do I hope to see you stricken down for them? Quite right I do, as there's no place for them in our world. Want to "offend" someone? Try going back to your cute idea and name your son Jadebayor. That'll show me. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 03:22 | |
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sigh One last time!! Does it not make sense to stop this shit before one of us get so wound up, we lose all rational thought, or before this becomes a "ming dick is bigger then yours" shouting match?? I was SUGGESTING that this has gone on long enough, we are not going to change each others minds!! |
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| Reply by: Snake_Eyes at Mar 20, '08 03:25 | |
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It would actually be Jdebayor, and I wouldn't do that because, for one, there really needs to be a vowel for the second letter to make it work, and second because you've never done anything to make me want to name my son after you. You don't like doing crackdowns, don't do them. Don't come running out here crying and threatening to shoot people. |
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| Reply by: Finlandia at Mar 20, '08 03:25 | |
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I doubt you'll find me losing my "rational thought" over this. My thoughts are doing what I can for my boss and little else. As for minds being changed, that wasn't my objective anyway. My opinion was shared in hopes of people thinking about the actual topic, and then presenting their agreement/disagreement...pro's/con's in a respectful manner where someone could take what was said, then form their own opinion on the subject. Obviously, this was not the path this conversation took, which is quite disappointing. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 03:31 | |
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Goodness, Finlandia...this again? Must I disprove your accusations time and time again? Threaten to shoot someone? Hardly. Now if you were to say I would like to see you dead, yes, that would be true. And, not for your differing opinion, your bloodline (which is hardly more than some faint old memory to me anyway), any alleged grudges, or such...but rather, because of the offensive and ignorant words you've uttered tonight. I'll stand by my opinion that there's no place in this world for it, and yes, I hope to see you in the obits for those very words. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 03:34 | |
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I think it's an issue that you cannot control. Much like the inactive targets. I mean this conversation lends itself well to the idea of having to buy your inactives just so no one else will shoot them before you do. Personally I am an A and B. If my friends and I are participating in a crackdown and I see they've been tossed in the slammer, I'm gonna go for them because I want to help them. If I don't know you and it's a choice between you (??3 guards we'll say for example) or someone with 8 guards, I'm gonna go for the guy with 8 guards. No I don't think it's sad that it has come to this, I think this was a foreseeable consequence that requires a strategy beyond threats of shooting (yes there was a threat of shooting)people who are your "Type B Mobster" |
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| Reply by: Seroquel at Mar 20, '08 03:35 | |
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I'd settle for you disproving me once, frankly. I don't claim my bloodline is famous, so you saying it's just a faded memory really has no bearing on me. My bloodline is who we are, and we're not going to change. I don't care about treading on the past, thanks. If the gods strike me down, then fine. It wasn't racist, but if that's how they see it, well, they're the gods. I'm not going to argue with them. I'm done now. I'm tired and I'm going to bed. I've said what I wanted to say. The simple fact of the matter is that instead of simply making the choice not do to crackdowns anymore, you came out and put up a poster crying that it's unfair that people break you out of jail and saying that you'd love to shoot them for doing so. For trying to hone THEIR skills. You want to shoot them. That's ridiculous. |
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| Reply by: Finlandia at Mar 20, '08 03:41 | |
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It's an entirely different thing than your example of inactives and shooting. First off, people pay for jails. People do not pay for shots. Also, and I'll say this again, no matter which category you fit in, it's your personal choice. I believe in personal choices, despite what my new friends have attempted to "prove". My plea (the exact word I used in my speech) was for people to begin to realize that actual hard earned money is put into play when it involves jails, and thusly, there is a more respectful way to go about jailbreaking. Don't care? I certainly can't make you. As for this argument of "Don't get thrown in", we both know this can't be helped. Tough luck though isn't it? I'm ok with that. The point, though, is, it's getting to a point where nobody wants to do crackdowns for anyone because of the very reasons I've pointed out. It's not that hard to take the respectful approach, but, if you don't want to, then sure, I get that. I've seen a lot that take that approach. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 03:42 | |
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Twist my words however you like Finlandia. It still doesn't make your version true. I never said people shouldn't hone their skills. I never said I would shoot anyone that did. I never told anyone they HAD to follow my opinions. I never even said people shouldn't join in the jailbreaks I start. Of course, if you would take the time to step back and actually read the words written on my poster, you'll see that for yourself. |
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| Reply by: Adebayor at Mar 20, '08 03:49 | |
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