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| What do you think? | Started by: Giorgio-Esposito on Apr 28, '22 19:00 |
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“What do you think?” Giorgio curiously pondered to himself while he sat in his blood soaked shirt. He didn’t think much to change due to the adrenaline of murdering Tipper. He wasn’t exactly sure how to word things, but for once in his life, he was happy. He had hated the boring nothingness of working for a leader who was a mute. Giorgio never hated Shinigami, but he always felt overlooked. He was a fair gun, great donator and overall an active member of the family for Don Shinigami. After being overlooked for promotion after promotion, he never was sure what to do. It drove Giorgio mad. “Why the others and not me?” He said with a jealous rage. He felt he had done more than some others but yet, was held back without a word. “When I had been asked to rogue by some people I knew, I was at first taken back. I hadn’t planned to. I wasn’t quite ready to do so either. My gun wasn’t in the best position but it could kill most people. I had 200 men following me for protection and I was fibbing a little on my shot reports, which is bad.. But is it so bad when your Godfather-Chairman wanted to kill people for their gun sizes? It was something I had wondered about. Maybe I should have been honest.. “ Giorgio said quietly to himself. “I was going to be honest with my leader about it until I saw the witness statement of Godfather RL-Stine & Godfather HeadHunterX murdering Professor & Minotaur. After inquiring more about it with people, it had certainly been about them reporting their guns and them not being favored bloodlines” “I found at that point it was detrimental to be honest to my crew leader.. I really liked the guy, but he was asleep a lot and our family right hand man Lancelot was the man really leading the crew followed by twigs. I really hated that our crew was so large and active with great people, but there was no true leadership” “There were many reasons I felt the need to do what I did, a combination of plenty of things going on within my crew and city. I now ask you all, what do you think?” |
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Poor leadership is truly detrimental to being able to grow and experience the world as it should be. Unfortunately it seems that many cities were rife with these do nothing leader which really allowed for something like this to even happen. It's hard to imagine a more disorganized response to an event, and sad to see so many good people get wiped out due to a lack of ability. |
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| Reply by: Conqueeftador at Apr 28, '22 19:10 | |
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I agree with you. I have some guilt in the murder of several people sleeping, many good people who had no idea what was going on. I know that the sense of loyalty is high to many and would fight for their families to the death, even though sometimes the leadership's were fairly absent. From my point of view, we aimed for many people in the first and second shots to kill organizers of protection shots and people who could quickly get things rolling in their favor. Luckily for us, Fluffiest & Tipper were dead in moments, but unfortunately, Eren had been missed on, who was someone I personally believe could have organized the remnants of the cities to fight back. It seems even now, the cities are disorganized and not working together whatsoever, which is good for me, but bad for business in general. A lot of the "leaders" currently aren't crew leaders, but crew holders. Just someone who you think won't shoot you and will listen to orders. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio-Esposito at Apr 28, '22 19:18 | |
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It is certainly a shame to see sleeping people getting killed, but it is part of life. Much like the guilt you are saddled with now, things will move on eventually and business will return to normal one way or the other. I don't have high hopes for the new stock of "leaders" either. Seems more and more we are getting idiots with no training taking up spots that don't know the first thing about running a crew. |
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| Reply by: Conqueeftador at Apr 28, '22 19:42 | |
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I don't think anyone has come out of this covering themselves in glory, really. A group of people aligning themselves together regardless of family, in order to kill leaders for killing people regardless of family, seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. I have no particular affiliation to any of the dead leaders and do not doubt they would have removed more people, likely including some of the very people who have now risen against them. You will doubtlessly feel justified in your actions and they in theirs. As will the next group and the group thereafter. Nothing really changes except the terminology. As to the organization and abilities of those involved, the fact this remains a conflict at all is very much upon the attackers who started it. They permitted the complete disarray that was the initial response to turn into a defence that may well prove their undoing. Not something to brag about. |
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| Reply by: TheAirlinePilot at Apr 28, '22 20:08 | |
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Man I really find it strange that as much as Shinigami talked to you guys and asked you about whatever you think or need non of you mentioned a shit to him and once you guys rebelled on him and killed him now you bringing this up. He tried his best to keep everyone safe and help you all with credits and funds and never once put the money you and other guys donated in his pocket. You were never overlooked as you always mentioned that you can't be active because of RL and school yet always showed you his appreciation and kept you in promotions and you were about to get your next one, he trusted you and never cared about your past or insisted to talk about it. Were you ever mentioned a thing or asked him about a thing about the family or outside it and didn't get the answer? Did you even trust him as much as he did according to your work and performance? I don't know the answer to that, but one thing I'm sure of till the last moment he putting his best for you and everyone. You mentioning his absence, he was CL for months, while the only time he couldn't be as active once he fell in a very hard sickness even when he was like that he was looking for everyone by his hands and proceeded with the work and every time he could to talk to you all. Such a shame. He just wished that you guys talk to him with your thoughts and opinions and trust him as much as did for you guys. |
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| Reply by: H-E-R-O at Apr 28, '22 20:25 | |
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H-E-R-O if this wasentioned to your father that they plan an attack because of logs they had about purging lists, would have stood by and shot with them or turned your gun on them?.
Maybe you don't know what he might have done, and that was probably why you was never informed of how your family really felt becaus ethey were scared of they speak up they would be purged |
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| Reply by: Mullet at Apr 28, '22 20:57 | |
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Mullet If they talked to him about their thoughts we may reach a point to understand or solve things, as they know he wouldn't purge them, he wouldn't kill them for no solid reason or proof even if he was asked by all the the people he would ask him to, he was always ready to fight for his family before anyone else and never was late to provide them with everything they need and put faith in them. My father would allow them to rogue and would allow anyone to touch them, FYI he tried to build up their defenses before his hands, he asked his hands to build their defense by themselves while he will help his crew to protect them, why would he kill them after that? For thoughts or opinions? No way, who knows my father knows how hard he will go and fight for his guys. |
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| Reply by: H-E-R-O at Apr 28, '22 21:07 | |
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Thank you for your personal opinion sir Hero, noted. I think people were definitely scared to voice their opinion should they end up like Minotaur or Professor, god rest their souls. I had no personal qualms with my leader, ShinigamiK, but he just wasn't around very much and when he was, he was much less a leader. Unfortunately just another loyal hq holder. I mean no offense to your father over it. I, and others, spent much time trying to make your family great but it's hard to keep motivation when he was never around, much like my real father. I can't say it was particularly easy to say "Yeah, I'm not really happy your godfather and your godfather chairman shot two people in our city for having guns". What would you say? It's not my business? Writing was on the wall. |
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| Reply by: Giorgio-Esposito at Apr 28, '22 21:52 | |
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Again trying to hold her stomach and not throw up from the bullshit being spewed by Giorgio-Esposito
You sound like a fucking kid who finally hit the ball and didn’t get his lollypop right away. You answered your own fucking question with your jealous rage.
What the fuck does that have to do with your dissatisfaction with not being promoted fast enough? That’s what this all boils down to. Sounds like it was internal shit, out of your control my man, especially if you bothered to attended the funeral and heard the Godfather apologize in public. Minotaur - Professor - I know they might have been your friends, but somewhere down the line they fucked up, whether you like it or not. Get over it. That’s how I see it and the family you sat by and watched being slaughtered. Who in the right minds would follow you? First time you feel slighted or it doesn’t go your way or you seek revenge for something that’s completely out of your control, you will say fuck family again. You are unrealistic, illogical, and self-centered. But you are cool with me. It takes all types in this thing of ours. But coming out with the claims of killing a ranked made man will only come back to bite you right in the butt. |
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| Reply by: Badapple at Apr 28, '22 22:25 | |
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Most of Shinigami's life as CL was active and talking to everyone daily. I wonder if you just looked the last few weeks and dropped the rest. You are saying he wasn't a leader when you never once reached him, never once asked him about a thing, never once suggested a thing, non of you tried to argue or talk or ask him about anything while he was asking you guys to speak your minds and we would discuss it to the deepest point, if not that why are you a full member in his family? About the last point of not liking the gfs, well Ya you could tell him that he wouldnt shoot you for that, he wouldn't care if you like the rest of the uppers when you are loyal, and no matter what he wouldn't let anyone touch you if there is no solid proof that you did something cost you your life. You just can't make come up with all of this when you didn't try even once to talk to him about something you don't like even if it was little thing. As his son I really wished you talked to him, but whatever, sadly trust and loyalty is something precious that can't be bought and you don't have it. |
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| Reply by: H-E-R-O at Apr 28, '22 22:29 | |
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What do I think hmmm personally I think you are full of shit Giorgio...
I know full well that in Shini's absence Lancelot promoted you a few times so tell me how were you overlooked? |
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| Reply by: Emris at Apr 28, '22 22:48 | |
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Alas H-E-R-O that is exactly what he can do, just make shit up to justify his betrayal of his Leader, his District and his City. You see this comes down to winners and losers. Our lines perished, so we are the loosers, his lives on, so he is the winner. Sure he may be in league with a super secret proscribed organisation with a history of fucking up and being punished by the Gods, an organisation that simply uttering their name will see you struck down by the Gods themselves. But make no mistake, they are here, they walk amongst us, and they have decided that they need to be back in power again. This organisation, that we will call 'Lee Enfield' so that we know who we are talking about, is famous for blood lining and purging and victimising people. But its hard to be a cunt when you aren't in power, so they have risen up to seize power. Well good luck to them, and to the idiots that supported them, but rest assured that the only thing that will change is the number of victims over the coming days, weeks and months is set to escalate. |
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| Reply by: Chris_Vaughn at Apr 28, '22 22:49 | |
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Badapple listens to H-E-R-O speak. H-E-R-O it's an honor to hear you come speak about your father. But you owe Giorgio-Esposito no explanations. Your father just trusted the wrong person. The only reason someone would watch innocent people die is because they don't give a fuck. Right now he is sitting there watching innocent thugs turn gangster being killed when they are only trying to earn their bones. Fucking sad. |
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| Reply by: Badapple at Apr 28, '22 22:56 | |
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Winners can write the things to justify themselves and their actions, no argue to this point,yet betrayal will come with betrayal. As I'm taught by father and our blood line, we aren't very familiar with organizations and their history nor we like to dig in the past of people, we are sons of the day and they taught us that we reward people according to their actions not according to their father's. |
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| Reply by: H-E-R-O at Apr 28, '22 22:57 | |
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I should also have said that you should sack the speechwriter, Giorgio. Your own words are far more eloquently delivered. |
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| Reply by: TheAirlinePilot at Apr 28, '22 23:00 | |
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h-e-r-o I must say you are exactly the reason this happened, it's not about just the few that purged but the fence sitters the people who could have acted against it but didn't, if my memory serves me correct a member of your bloodline was also in some sort of power when the mass purges happened in the regime of Grin and Curtis, you sat back then and you sit back now, you are irrelevant |
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| Reply by: Mullet at Apr 29, '22 01:26 | |
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Mullet we can easily say things with no proof, I have never purged anyone, and I have put my in line and died before that for my members. During grin and Curtis I wasn't CL at all during that period, if you would like to know what really happened, I was gunned down for no reason multiple times during when I was hand, what was the reason? Of course by mistake by my gfc. So don't say I did things I have never done but also fought against it. |
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| Reply by: H-E-R-O at Apr 29, '22 01:37 | |
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That's brilliant you didn't read what I said, "some sort of power" that includes being a hand |
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| Reply by: Mullet at Apr 29, '22 01:44 | |
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Incidentally. You mention purging and purging lists. If the last 48 hours have taught us anything it is that it wasn't done enough! Yes. You could talk gaining trust and loyalty. I don't know what the leaders did with you guys.. But this is an absolute lesson in why the purging lists have been used by previous regimes. Rightly or wrongly.. |
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| Reply by: bighead at Apr 29, '22 05:40 | |
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