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Block all gambling totally for whoever wants too Started by: Polio on Nov 10, '22 06:37

What is your idea?

Players should have the ability to block all types of gambling on here if they wish. As someone who has had issues with gambling in the past it is far to easy to block yourself for 300 days but then reduce it down to 12 hours at a click of a button. Gambling addiction is a huge thing and this option should be available. Obviously the credits and money on here aren't 'real' but people are spending money on here and it is far too easy to do and can get out of control. I am sure this is only aimed at a small amount of people but for those few it would help massively. I'm personally banned (through choice) on all online gambling accounts and it isn't the job of izzy or admins to administer gambling, i get that but it would help to have the choice to do this as a recovering gambler.

 


Has your idea already been suggested in some form or another before? (Check the Suggestions forum for past threads with ideas the same or similar to yours.) only briefly i believe and some steps are in place but i think the 12 hour button is pointless as people can lose before they go to bed, ban themselves for 12 hours, wake up and a few hours later gamble again


What does your idea entail? 

Give the option to ban all/some types of gambling to the players. 


How can your idea be successfully implemented into the game as it stands?

quite easily i would imagine by getting rid of the 12 hour button for those who want too


What major changes would be needed to make your idea work?

hopefully none


What is the positive impact of your idea?

helping people with gambling problems the access to not use its features on here and ruin the game for some.


What is the negative impact of your idea?

you may get a few people who ban themselves then pester to be unbanned as they think they don't have a problem anymore...the problem will always be there


How may your idea affect the rest of the userbase?

it shouldn't as the many who have control can still use the gambling features

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This has been suggested loads of times - from custom timers, specific games, removing the block all together. 

I am going to lock this as Squishy will not be changing the feature based on this thoughts of the matter over the years & in mirc. He can unlock if he has changed his mind in the last few months and I'm in the wrong. 

https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/1084520#16927326

If you lack the self control to behave yourself with gambling, then giving people the ability to selectively turn on and off certain forms is counter productive.  I don't foresee us ever allow certain types, its all or nothing, you either have control, or you don't.

Reply by: Squishy at Dec 19, '17 15:44
 

https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/895082#13862394

This is one of those things that will be Tough Love by us. Either you have self control to handle gambling, or you don't. I think its better for all of us all around if you either block it, or show self restraint. I think having it be selective sort of defeats the purpose of everyone's interest.
Reply by: Squishy at Sep 22, '16 03:25
 

https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/891708#13149113

The ban there is for people who can not control themselves.  People wanted the unban feature, but, all that does is re-enable them to do the same behavior they wanted to stop just a few clicks ago - so we make it so you can only unban down to 1 day. 

The same thing with banning gambling, you either have self control - or you don't.  A guy who cant stay away from vodka shouldn't have easy access to beer or Nyquil.  I think the same theory applies here.

If you have a hard time controlling your impulses when it comes to gambling, then I think its in the best interest for us not to code in ways to undermine your own bans.

Reply by: Squishy at Sep 05, '16 03:01
 

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As the quotes were in reference to partial blocks on different gambling activities, thank you for unlocking the thread.

Gambling is an addiction (as recognized by the medical field), and the current system allows players to block gambling for, effectively, 12 hours, so it is more or less a temporary suspension rather than a true 'block'. 

The system could perhaps be changed to either 1) blocking gambling blocks all gambling, forever, irreversible (either for the account or the character the player decided to block the gambling on), or 2) a variation of the current system where you can not lower the block time down to 12 hours, and if you have decided to block gambling for 1y 4m, you have to finish up that time regardless of whether you changed your mind two days later.

And the permanent block (option 1 or 2) would allow people with no self control to actually avoid gambling, with no option to reverse it. 

Double and if they ask an Admin or whatever to get their gambling block removed -- the answer could be 'nah mate sorry you made your bed now sleep in it innit?'.

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I wouldn't mind it being treated like the actual casino wherein you choose 1 week - 1 month - 1 year as your block limits and to remove the block you have to wait a full week, month, or year from whatever date that you choose to lessen the block. While a lot of people here are gambling with money from lounge or what have you, there are those that use real money to purchase credits just to gamble, I will even admit that I've done it in the past. 

I do think there should be a stricter block with a strict explanation of what you're getting and if anyone complains then they're met with pointing at the warnings that this is irreversible, just like all of the other things in the game which use those very same warnings.

 

That, or, make it so people who have donated real life money on their current character are given the option to irreversible ban and everyone else can still use the reduce to 12 hour thing. Although that may confuse some people and create issues, but I still think creating issues is better than gambling addicts being given such easily reversible options.

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An option to permanently ban it all will be added shortly. There will be no option to undo it. Previously when people had asked me to block them, we had a 100% rate of people later asking on to unblock them, I don't want to keep having this awkward conversation explaining to people why I can't unblock them, so we're just not going to have the option it'll be 100% permanently blocked that cannot be undone alongside our existing option.
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