i believe the ban list was also agreed upon by every city's head in a meeting.....i'll leave it at that

first off, a strong vote of support to the new council, as this is something i wish i'd seen before.

secondly, i am very disapointed in all those who are supporting NPMs because the "make money". come on guys and dolls, that is not all that their is. and i believe that under some of the other rules, NPMs will eventually disapear. but to remove them now, is a step forwards, especially when NPMs were the only thing that was as strongly disliked as the money laundering when the gods placed them.

third and finally, a question to the council. 4 crews per city is all well and good, and no auths when crews aren't close to maxed is good. but what happens when we have 8 cities, with 4 full crews each. i dig that 1600 mafioso is good, but as i understand it, the hope is that we will have more then that one day. what happens then?

Philli the godfathers have already awnsered this. In time everything will be reviewed if required. I could even see NPMs making another appearence if they find it neccessary.

To be honest I aggree with the coucils decision and I don't see why everyone is finding it a big problem when nothing is actually set in stone. They have given people different types of targets to shoot at and tried to be as fair as they possibly can be.

Lets all just give it a go and see how it works out. I'm sure if it does prove to be inefficient then changes will yet again be made.

"Philli, thank you for showing the numbers. Those number's prove how much we do NOT need so many families. Hell, I even found 4 families per city to be generous. I know we're all for trying to give new people a chance, but filling up cities with so many families before others are even at max capacity? That is just beyond dumb. All those cities are trying to do is boost their ability to wipe you out if needed. Besides when we allow for so many families you get shitty auth's that do nothing. You ought to have to work hard to be a leader."

"If you want to see that new people are getting a chance at auth, you can stare me down. I have never had my own family in the whole time my bloodline has been here. Just because there is a limit to 4 families per city doesn't mean we won't get new faces. I'm proof of that."

"The only other thing I plan to touch base on are NPM's. Fuck them. Pardon my french, but when my bloodline returned to these shores 9 or so months ago I didn't even know what the hell NPM's were. They didn't exist when I was here before and we never needed them. The only thing they led to was cities authing people to have the most crews and wouldn't think twice about it because of these new robots. Who needs real members when you can have fake ones? The only thing I saw them do was create lazy leaders and ruined how special getting auth used to be. You say they are great for money. Yet, that is what having active member's does. So kick the robots to the curb."

"To be quite honest with you, I only cared for them because I wanted to decorate them with a bunch of horses!"

Clarity shook her head at those who were arguing against these changes, but you could never make everyone happy. She was very proud to see these changes come into affect. She felt they were extremely needed.

I think this is a time that will be remembered for ages to come. I look forward to all the developments actually being implemented. There is one thing i absolutely love however.

George will die! SINGER hated the npms.

I am absolutely thrilled that these NPM, no potential mobsters, are actually being removed from all of our cities. I think they have restricted so many people from wanting to develop. Sometimes people would work to be the best earner in the family and their biggest competition is the no potential mobster.

clarity, yes, right now we do not need more crews. my point holds. if things continue the way we want them to, their will come a time when my question is an issue, because we will become so successful that their will be more then 1,600 people in our thing here.

 now, zetsu did remind me that things can and will be evaluated if need be. so i think that if it does become a problem, a solution will present itself, i simply wanted to confirm that this could be fixed if we get too big in the future.

So it's bad to have more than 4 HQs but it's alright to have Made Men who've been on the shores for less then a month running them? Hmmm, ok.

if you've been made, then you have the trust of your crewleader, and(presumably) your godfather. so yes, it is ok to have made men who have been around less then a month run a crew.

I find something seriously and completely wrong with that line of thought. I'm all about the CHANGE aspect. When people get to become CL just because.....SOLELY BECAUSE of who their parents were is complete bullshit. Let's cut the sugar coating and get down to some real fucking problems.

Maybe I'm just missing something here. My mind isn't wrapping around the full concept of someone just hitting Made and being put in a spot to lead Capos, Bosses, Consigs and Dons. I love explanations, please explain.

(Sorry for the OCC)It is in my opinion alone that I would have to say I agree 1000% in this move because it promotes the realism of this game as it were intended to be.  This is what the real GF's would have done at this time so there for it's what we should do at this time.

you could be a high rank but not be ready nor want to lead...some people are just born leaders and better than others and its the godfathers job to choose who's best

Philli, thank you for showing the numbers. Those number's prove how much we do NOT need so many families. Hell, I even found 4 families per city to be generous. I know we're all for trying to give new people a chance, but filling up cities with so many families before others are even at max capacity? That is just beyond dumb. All those cities are trying to do is boost their ability to wipe you out if needed. Besides when we allow for so many families you get shitty auth's that do nothing. You ought to have to work hard to be a leader."

I am all for the rule that bars cities from beginning a new family when the current crews in the city are not near full.  I have always been against this practice, and I applaud current leadership for taking that action.

"If you want to see that new people are getting a chance at auth, you can stare me down. I have never had my own family in the whole time my bloodline has been here. Just because there is a limit to 4 families per city doesn't mean we won't get new faces. I'm proof of that."

While I am quite happy to see you wearing bold for our city of Chicago, I think it is unfair to say that you are proof that new mafioso will have the same opportunities as any.  Your bloodline is hardly new to these shores, proven if by nothing else, by the horde of bodyguards that are trailing you. 

The only thing I saw them do was create lazy leaders and ruined how special getting auth used to be. You say they are great for money. Yet, that is what having active member's does. So kick the robots to the curb."

This argument keeps being brought up, how exactly do NPMs create lazy leaders?  Really I dont see how that is possible.  If someone is lazy, they are lazy.  If someone is lazy other members should take them out.  Anyone who is lazy should be removed from their leadership role.  Having a robot in employ does not make someone lazy, there is no connection in that logic. 

Let me be clear, I do not advocate keeping mafioso that are away for months on employ just so a leader can employ more NPMs.  I am not advocating someone who is well known to purchase a multitude of robots and sit on auth for no reason other than to collect money.  I do advocate the use of a business enhancement tool that only stimulates our economy.  If some idiot sets up, and attempts to only have NPMs, and refuses members who are hardworking, well.. that is truly sad.  At the end of the day though, that should be their prerogative, and it will eventually be their downfall

That was not a legit answer but rather a mask to my original statement/thought. "Born leader" AKA "Hey I knew your parents, here's a family for you to run".

Just because it's someone else's decision does that mean I'm not allowed to lay my opinion down in front of it?

I don't feel as if I'm being disrespectful seeing as there's not a lot of ways to voice this concern. That's exactly what it is as well, a concern.

im not masking nothing i dont actually give a shit. just trying to put you at easy since you seem to be so uptight, cant you voice it in a more appropriate manner atleast...

(Sorry for the double post, I misread your original)

Authing the same bloodlines over and over the second it's allowed because they've done it before seems like a complete lack of......in itself. Someone 11-14 days in this business, HIGHLY illogical to see them as a leader and worthy in that amount of time.

Maybe some two bit Capo (that would be me) has higher standards because they don't really matter in his position. Who knows, it just seems to be a much higher problem then Robots that earn money.

Earning something of that magnitude in 11-14 days is just corrupting a reality we're striving for.

Maybe I'm just missing something here. My mind isn't wrapping around the full concept of someone just hitting Made and being put in a spot to lead Capos, Bosses, Consigs and Dons. I love explanations, please explain.

Perhaps I am as well. What exactly are you referring to JohnSmith?

I have spoken too soon, as Mr. Smith has responded. Disregard my transmission please.

NO!!!! NOT MY PRECIOUS IG-88!!!

ThomasHarrow drops to his knees, weeping in the base of The Statue of Bearderus

WHY!?!?!?! WHY!?!?!?!?!

ThomasHarrow rises and slowly sulks away, spitting on the plaque of SexyBeast on his way

"Considering his comments are indirectly speaking about myself, and yes a few others. I will respond for myself."

Clarity said as she looked at JohnSmith.

"Tell me, what haven't I done to earn something of this magnitude? I've been more active in these streets than probably about 80% of those high rankers who have been around for a bit longer. Not to mention most of those who were older were wiped out by the last two wars. When you have most of your mafioso only a few weeks old are you saying that because of this they haven't achieved the reality we're going for?"

"Let me give you an example of reality. You have a new boss, he has been at your job for only a few days, he oversees you and earns more than you, why? Because he did more than you did to get that job. Perhaps had better qualifications and more backing. That is reality."

"Now don't get me wrong, I believe if there was someone of a higher rank and older than me that they would of got my job and I would still be running around, just another mafioso."

"Yet, correct me if I'm wrong. Your bloodline was the same bloodline that when his leader died, he was authed and took your old leader's kin as his RH. If you're going to say that leaders shouldn't hold such positions after a few days then how could your own bloodline allow for their Right Hand to be a thug?"

Clarity smiled, she wasn't here trying to argue, but she had to come and defend herself.

Now that I've thrown my tantrum over IG-88, I'll give my two cents on this. Having lived through generations of change, both for the good and the bad of our society, I think it's time I did more than just dropped the status quo shitpiss all over The Peach Pit floor in Detroit.

As of 14th November, no more NPMs will be employed by any outfit from any city. Those NPMs currently employed will be allowed to complete their contracts and then no subsequent robots will then find work within our country. Including IG-88.

I don't like this change, as it cuts into the profits each family and city can make. I echo Eve's sentiments, in that this is the mafia, and making money should be our main focus. If robots aid in that process, then so be it. While I can respect the stance that has been laid out before the Godfather Council, as a legitimate purpose has provided, I feel it just isn't worth it. Will limiting the use of robots help improve the sense of community? I hope, but that is yet to be seen. While I disagree with this stance, I am interested to see it in action, and wonder if it really will help breathe new air into our community.

Each city will be limited to a maximum of 4 HQs within its borders.

Why limit city expansion if it helps improve your own city's strength, thus keeping you solvent and alive? I realize a huge part of these plans are to ensure the community grows, and to place to focus on building relationships between cities in order to survive, but this also cuts into making a larger profit if you really get to the root of it. I'm not against the idea of placing the focus more on sustaining working relationships, I just wonder if this is an idea that will continue over the long haul. As mobsters, while loyalty is what keeps us alive, making money is what keeps us going on a daily basis. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with this, just interested to see how it plays out.

No authorisations will be made whilst a city has a headquarters with more than 10 available spaces within its borders.

 

This ties in to everything else, and isn't much of a surprise. It's a no-brainer, really. Places the focus on building family relationships and actively training good people. Very solid move.

Protection Orders will last for 7 calendar days. 'Untagged' members are fair game. 'Tagged' members are to be given 7 calendar days to find a new family. Inactive associates are fair game. Inactive Made Men and above are to be given 7 calendar days to find a new family.

 

A clear plan for how to handle protection orders. No gray area here, which is nice to see.

Los Angeles will remain vacant.

Dominus would be a fine choice as Godfather of this city. That could take months though, seeing as how his bloodline has the reputation of lifetime Wise Guy.

Closing Comments

Tip-Dean is a wank stain.