A weary looking man approaches a small crowd, listens for a time, and waits for his chance to speak.

I lost some friends tonight and for that, I am saddened.

As for those that want to point fingers at other cities and call out their faults, it is hypocritical not to accept the issues that Detroit did have. Of course, it's easy to accuse others of hypocrisy, paint a portrait of the Godfather of Chicago "emo rag(ing)", then running off to emo rage themselves by committing suicide. It isn't as easy to make the tough decisions of removing a city that had some problems and watch friends and associates be gunned down. Then again, this world isn't and shouldn't be driven by emotions. This is a place for business and when the careless actions of a few ruin the business for the rest, then sometimes tough decisions have to be made.

I'll leave it at that, though I do want to pay my respects to Godmother Worley and all the men and women that perished in Detroit tonight. Rest in peace.

Having said his piece, Rathbone lowers his head, then turns on his heels and slowly shuffles off down the street.

Detroit was a dynamic, exciting and fun filled city.  That's why it was levelled.

And now?  For me...  I have no city, no place to call home.

Overground?  Underground.

It was levelled for reasons stated shooterMcgavin fun or not 

just curious about one tiny detail. detroit was punished for their actions in the streets towards philly but a member of chicago recently came out and shit all over philly. this gent recieved his button during the shit flinging ive just mentioned. just like to know how we let some things slide by some people and punish others for the very same thing

Let us not forget that it was defended by the upper management of Chicago as well. Literally no difference at all between what one city did and the other. Well, other than the fact one made a complete fucking speech on it.

As I said, everything was a legit excuse to war but this little fact. You worried about members disrespecting city heads? Well start by cleaning your own house before critiquing others.

(For those who know a reference point http://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/202915/page4

2nd post on page 4 is the best)

Hhdbjd: I hope you obviously, amazing powers of observation have not left you and you can here me from the grave.

New York - Not willing to take a chance and will only ever auth known individuals so as not to tip any balances.

This could not be further from the truth, in fact we do take chances, we do not allow ourselves to sit on the fence, yet we conduct our business with integrity and with an acute sense of intelligence.

During the war with LasVeags it would have been easy to sit back and not take part, the point at which we decided to intervene we could have picked both sides yet we were willing to make a choice. This ties in nicely with the latter part of your statement, we in fact had a new bloodline ready to set up, this bloodline showed us her talent and her willingness to move on up the ranks, she was all but from setting but she died in action and if we decide we want to male certain decision no matter if they tip the balance we will do so with, as i have said intelligence.

Anyway, jj, I congratulate you on what was a successful and justified take-down. I wont slay any of Detroit's names sakes as i had many friends that resided in that city. It was blatant the city was growing above its self.

but to all who have fallen, RIP.

Let us not forget that it was defended by the upper management of Chicago as well. Literally no difference at all between what one city did and the other. Well, other than the fact one made a complete fucking speech on it.

As I said, everything was a legit excuse to war but this little fact. You worried about members disrespecting city heads? Well start by cleaning your own house before critiquing others.

(For those who know a reference point http://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/202915/page4

2nd post on page 4 is the best)

I think that the difference is that Fatty created a speech, addressing legitimate issues, and past the title, he did so somewhat respectfully.  When Lotta came to our streets to announce some good news, a RHM from detroit took that as a que to come to hijack her conversation and literally call her a shitty leader.  That is well out of line.  I won't say that I agree that Fatty was 100% in line with his comments, but I will say it is completely clear to me that if he literally said the words "shitty leader" in the streets here, I probably would have shot him myself.  It has always been, say what you want, but say it the right way. I am very sorry to see the demise of Ms. Worley, but I think you are misplacing your anger.

Have a little cheese to go with that whine, Shooter.

"It became quite evident to the Godfather Council that Alabama had little to no control over his city."

It's now quite obvious that every member of the GF Council had their filthy, hypocritical hands in this.

Mucky fingers.  Mucky, mucky fingers.

THE_SINGER puts his mucky fingers up and starts dancing!


Come on Shooter dance with me! Put those mucky fingers in the air

Philly - As long as the leader continues to whisper sexy nothings into the ear of JesseJames they will be as safe as Clarity who begged for the death of her last godfather so that she could go bold.

yeahhhhhh You're probably right, women probably can't use skill or intelligence to accomplish anything.  Fact is I have to "sex up" Jesse three times a week to avoid a bullet.  I mean, I am fairly sure that Jesse felt that this needed to happen before he was even in contact with Lotta, but, eh what do I know, I own a vagina. 

think maybe shooter just need some lovin' himself, TIGGGAAAA WOODS YA'LL

Possession is 9/10ths of the law. 

Ownership, smownership.

can't beat a good ol whinge now and again eh? 

*Ghost_Of_Mank, looking a little pale, passes through the crowd, literally, to have his say* 

I can’t say that i agree with the action taken against Detroit, for obvious reasons.

*Ghost_Of Mank coughs up some ectoplasm into his handkerchief *

It was the Godmothers propagative as to how she dealt with her family, particularly that of her underboss, and it was Phillys responsibility to act if it felt disrespected, not the GF council. 

I’m not convinced that this one instance of conflicting ideals concerning the appropriate punishment for the crimes accused justifies the death of close to 80 individuals. As for this being done for the good of the community, Detroit was without a doubt one of the most active cities in these streets and contributed a great deal to its "quality". Certainly on this day, far more has been lost through the council’s actions than has been preserved.

*Ghost_Of Mank vaporises into thin air, the echo of his voice slowly dissipating after he's gone*

it wasnt just the philly senario though was it?

harbouring BG whackers i believe? and it wasnt exactly done under the nose of godmother worley and yet after she knew nothing was done? thats considered a threat to all the cities.

To be honest even I have to do that EveValon. And I'm a male/pizza-god.

harbouring BG whackers i believe? and it wasnt exactly done under the nose of godmother worley and yet after she knew nothing was done? thats considered a threat to all the cities. <\em>

Detroit didn't harbour any bg wackers. Let's not start lies. The person referred to is ancalagon, he shot Vegas bgs because Alabama didn't promote him to made man.

The letter Jesse spoke of was one which evilclown pretended he would keep the bg shooting quiet, the reason for him saying this is irrelevant now, the fact was Alabama had a lot of words with him over it and accepted the reasons behind the comments.

Alabama knew that public perception would be that she did nothing, but that wasn't the case, again though, no point in going over that. But I will not stand and allow false allegations of harboring bg shooters. Detroit worked hard to find the people responsible for these bg attacks.

lets not start lies? im just reading what JesseJames wrote and telling the the person above me who did not seem to grasp that...this has happened alot cities get wiped out DEAALLL WIVV ITT sir

My anger is non-existing as far as the takedown, the reasons aside from one were legit enough reasons if true. Chicago spewing bullshit in this case is my problem. That speech was blatantly disrespectful and to try and justify it in anyway is pathetic. It was far from worded in a respectful manner and ATTACKED the leadership of Philly and pretty much everything to do with the city. Let's be real, it led to the verbal assault on that city from others.

Damage control is pointless, admitting the fault makes a lot more sense at this point. Shit, I can almost blame that single speech and lack of punishment on the massive amount of disrespect shown in the streets afterwards. People thought they could fucking get away with anything after Chicago (the ones leading by example, like it or not) allowed and promoted that trash.

Again, I have no problems with the takedown if what's said is true. It would have been better though if another city head did this speech, not the one who's city led the verbal assault on Philly. We can agree on that, right?



(from my phone so editing and rewording is a little rough, I'm sure you'll get the point though.)