Who's with me on this idea?

http://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/229888

I agree about people's ranks being viewable only to those who have high info level and their crewmates. It's more fun to play. I also suggest that RHM and LHM positions be renamed to Underboss and Consigliere respectively, to make it look like real Mafia titles.

I agree approximately a bajillion percent with Vedrone about RHM and LHM being renamed Underboss and Consigliere.

I am waiting to see the end result before passing judgment, but I do think it's a bad thing that you can see exactly how many units someone has. Perhaps instead of the EXACT number of units, we could get a range that depends on someone's info skill.

So if someone has crappy info, they might see someone's level listed as "+20". As in, somewhere above twenty but unsure how much.

Someone with mediocre info might look at the same person and see their level as "30-40". And someone with perfect info might see "38-40". You get the idea.

Or perhaps leave numbers behind entirely. If level is equivalent to units, you're basically getting a measure of how active people have been. So maybe instead of a numeric value, you would get one of the following showing in your profile:

Lazy Scumbag
Somewhat Involved
Dedicated Dealer
Hard Worker
Cash Cow
Street King

Again, those are just off the top of my head. But again, it's realistic to know ROUGHLY how active someone is in organized crime. You would see them around and notice their influence if you're paying attention... and your observation skills/info is high enough.

Just rough ideas of the top of my head... please improve them!

I also agree with Thehunter about Vedrone's comment, and I agree with Thehunters last comment about the "range." As for the names im not sure, but the numerical ranges are a good idea

My view is that it may be helpful when recruiting for OCs to know what levels prospective gang members may be but that does remove the challenge of deduction from the process.

I honsetly believe that Unit levels should be visible only to CLs and their Hands, and in the case of Associates, their Sponsors.

Eh, it takes a lot of the mystery out of the game...

Thanks Squishy.

That sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.

And what about the renaming of RHM and LHM positions?

I'm totaly for this idea providing leaders usethis feature properly and as has been mentioned, don't Keep the upper structures free for personal/ ooc friends.

One more point, if the plan is to allow creweaders to purchase crew points via credits or real money then ill just retire now.

I disaggee with the ability to allow low ranks to hold left or right or have  bodyguards.

Yes this is a game but you play your current character, what you do or who you where should in theory stay with that character. It's too easy for someone to start off in abetter position than when they died. Your character is a role playing object. Not an extension of a previous character.

It's an interesting compromise, but I still may not like general public seeing if I'm being held back. I don't want people making assumptions from that fact.

I don't agree in re-naming the RHM & LHM to Underboss and Consigliere at all.

An underboss is the leader who is second in charge of the whole family. i.e. The Godfather's RHM for want of a better explanation.

RHM signifies the second in charge in the sub-crew/family as it were.

LHM I have always considered a needless position. Fair enough it would have helped years ago when crews were large enough to warrant additional help, but I don't see the point in it now other than to give someone title. IMO the old crew structure thread in the HQ can give someone their place just as easily.

In the grand scheme of things, I, personally, would prefer LHM to be wiped from the game, RHM stay as it is (or re-named if REALLY upsets some people), Godfathers being able to assign an Underboss, and possibly a Consigliere of their own to demonstrate the 'Family' feel from the top down rather than it being a Godfather presiding over different families.

*Shrugs* Just my opinion.

Good point there. Then, Godfather's crew should have an Underboss instead of RHM and Consigliere instead of LHM and other crews should keep the names.

Like it so far!

Team-Red

I love the Hunters idea about giving names to the levels.

So, has this change taken place? If it has, I don't really see any difference. If it hasn't, when will it?

The anticipation is slowly killing me

Its not a reasonable compromise at all. There should be absolutely NO displaying of level in anyone's profile for any reason. It serves no beneficial purpose what so ever. None. Nada. All it does is display a piece of personal information to the entire player base. It is 100% unrealistic and utterly ridiculous.

The fact a Thug can see a Wise Guy from the other side of the country on 35 units serves no benefit for the Wise Guy, or his family, or his city. It is only detrimental. This kind of information would NEVER be available to anyone other than the individual in question and their leader.

After giving it a few days, I'm with Kurtz totally. This info needs to be removed from the profile asap. Its the same info a CL sees on the crew page, and thats just where this sort of information belongs. I certainly hope the admins listen to us on this and remove it.

I'm with Kurtz totally.  It takes a lot of the mystery out of the game...but thats just me