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| Rules and Expectations | Started by: Zoey on Dec 13, '08 13:14 |
| Did I just read this wrong. Or is this whole thing about Zoey is just going to shoot anyone? Like falling families and 48 hours? | |
| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 16:42 | |
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| Read again, Finley. | |
| Reply by: Zoey at Dec 13, '08 16:46 | |
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| I did. I read it twice. | |
| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 16:59 | |
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If they stay unsponsored past 24 hours they are taking advantage of the rule. I will not punish any more of my hard working family members for shooting at people who know when they work in the seven cities controlled by the mafia they should be in a family. Once again, join a family or die. Ok this is the part that's getting me.. Are you speaking for them or yourself? |
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| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 17:01 | |
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| Those are my words so I'm obviously speaking for myself. | |
| Reply by: Zoey at Dec 13, '08 17:08 | |
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| So if i'm not in a family tomorrow your just going to wack me. All right cool. | |
| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 17:09 | |
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| No, your statement indicates that you didn't hear what I said. I didn't say I'm going to wack everyone who's not in a crew by the time they are 24 hours old. | |
| Reply by: Zoey at Dec 13, '08 17:13 | |
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oh shit wait you can't wack me i'll only be a thug. My bad on that one. But you did answer my question. Did I just read this wrong. Or is this whole thing about Zoey is just going to shoot anyone? I was right. |
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| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 17:14 | |
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| Why shouldn't she wack you? The protection is designed to protect those who don't know better. You have just indicated that you realize you need to join a family. | |
| Reply by: SamGramignano at Dec 13, '08 17:21 | |
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If she does oh well right. What can you do? In all honesty I don't care if she wacks me or she don't wack me. If she does cool my son will just re-enter this world and i'll be back at it again. I got my question answered. Thats all I came for any way right. If she don't oh well ok maybe I might make a name. Yes I do know the rules. I know I should Join a family. I also know the 48 hour rule was given to me so I could chose a family. Way I see it we have some great and not so great family's out there right now. I'm kind of leaning toward Gambino. Kind of like Handiman. You know. Later tonight im going to go our and party like a rockstar. Cause that's what I do. Then sunday i'll recover and come monday-friday im hard at petties again. Waiting till I can felony. So if im shot cause I made my name today and party tonight and couldn't make my mind up sweet. Some times I get trigger happy too. I hope I answered your question. |
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| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 17:28 | |
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Once again every time Zoey makes a statement on the Streets, there are always idiots that feel its in their interest to test the limits of a don due to there protection from the 48 hour rule. She's not running a tutorial for all you young guns or old young guns that want to test her, its pretty simple...so read the damn thing! Now back to the matter at hand, its a pretty simple post, there are regulations and procedures that have been honored and held up by don's over time on this thing of ours. But lately the fallen soldiers of dead cl's are starting to abuse the prevlidge of amnesty nay should i say "mercy" granted by the victor to the lower ranks. They roam around theses cities with the protection offered to them by either the game as under the (-48) or by the Victor granting them mercy. So why the sudden change in the tone??? And its not because Zoey has seen the long end of the gun, but because you and yes i mean YOU the unsponsored's of the world choose to sit and wait for better things to happen...For example you have multiple amounts of -48 running around waiting till the last minute to accept an invite which might have been sent hours ago. And when a hitter sits with his screen open the see the turn, he pulls the trigger and is found in the obits a bit later after taking out his mark, why? cause they made a mistake shooting a sponsored by the split of second. And then secondly lets talk about the second situation, if you decide to walk around the streets of our fine 7 cities, your bound to see atleast one unsponsored from three days ago or more. So who are these people? not new accounts, but older accounts who in some cases are WG's and Earners. And just because the Don of Det has said to protect them, they choose to sit and not do anything, cause there protected. And every once in a while when these all knowing unpsonsored's die after mind you not 48 hours but sometimes even 72 hours die, Top players from big crews take the fall for it, cause the rules till now protect such idiots that roam the streets abusing such extended protections, where there should be non. So thank the merciful victors!!! If you look at the obits, there a multiple high ranking accounts that have fallen from grace do you the actions of these idiots...but then again not all high ranking accounts are held to such high standards. Zoey its about time a change was implemented to tutor these new old guns...if the word doesnt work then might should be implemented. |
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| Reply by: DiggerRourke at Dec 13, '08 18:50 | |
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Thanks I'm glad from what started from a discussion with me and Zoey turned into a 3 on 1. But i'm more than happy to talk about this with all of you. All right Rourke. What your calling i'm a idiot i'm assuming your addressing me. Cause of my recent questions. I did read it like I told her. Even gave a small quote so she know's I read it. I don't think i've tested her in any way as a matter of fact. Just a simple questions was all it was and that was due to me making sure I had my fact's straight so I don't miss judge or anything. So anyway. So why the sudden change in the tone??? And its not because Zoey has seen the long end of the gun, but because you and yes i mean YOU the unsponsored's of the world choose to sit and wait for better things to happen...For example you have multiple amounts of -48 running around waiting till the last minute to accept an invite which might have been sent hours ago. And when a hitter sits with his screen open the see the turn, he pulls the trigger and is found in the obits a bit later after taking out his mark, why? cause they made a mistake shooting a sponsored by the split of second. ^^^ all what you said Rourke.. Where im from they call that part of being a hitter. well a hitter from a so called hitter. A Elite you may say. Everyone know's or should know that being a hitter takes sacrifice good judgment and know what your shooting at. Also that you have a expected short life expectancy than alot of others. Mainly cause the not well trained will make that stupid mistake you just mentioned. I call that bad hitting. You may blame your bad hitting on us cause. We want to pick the right family or something happend in our life we had to miss a day so didn't get to join the family. Either way shitty hitter you mentioned here. I died in the past from it and I was called the same. If piggy was here he would tell you the same. And then secondly lets talk about the second situation, if you decide to walk around the streets of our fine 7 cities, your bound to see atleast one unsponsored from three days ago or more. So who are these people? not new accounts, but older accounts who in some cases are WG's and Earners. And just because the Don of Det has said to protect them, they choose to sit and not do anything, cause there protected. And every once in a while when these all knowing unpsonsored's die after mind you not 48 hours but sometimes even 72 hours die, Top players from big crews take the fall for it, cause the rules till now protect such idiots that roam the streets abusing such extended protections, where there should be non. So thank the merciful victors!!! ^^^^^ your quote If your bitching about this why do you even give it.. Come on your bitchy of a rule you make lol and say its our fault. You gave us the time we didn't. And again some person could have family problems so they didn't join or anything. You don't know the sercemstance but i agree on shooting these. |
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| Reply by: Finley at Dec 13, '08 19:10 | |
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Pure stands close by and listens to all that is said. He agrees with Zoey on a number of things. There is a couple of questions though that he has for the Don. As the conversation dies down a bit, Pure steps foward Miss Zoey. I just wondered how you intend to enforce this new rule you have enacted on your family. I have alot of respect for you coming out and changing what has come to be a fundemental law of our society however. Say your family go out and murder all the -48 hour old gangsters. How can you prove that they all had relatives and fathers/mothers in the mafia? I guess we will never know. If the victim had fathers in the mafia, he has been shot fair and square. However, the innocents will proberly sink without a trace. Their children, if they have any, will go into a more civilian life I expect which cannot be good for our world. In my opinion, the rule didnt need to be changed. 2 days earning money for yourself is not the end of the world. After that time, they join a family and are likely to spend weeks earning for the Boss. Especialy when the small ranks cant make that much money anyway, the Boss's arnt losing out too badly. Dont get me wrong I think its very interesting and I just fail to see many...rules, if you get me? Also, is this for other family heads to join in aswell? Or will you be ensuring that it is just your family that are allowed these kills? |
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| Reply by: Pure_Healm at Dec 13, '08 20:01 | |
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Zoey, thank you for this. It's about time one of the leaders of this community started acting as if they were a mob boss. The life that we choose to live is a tough life. When we take our first steps here I don't believe that hand holding helps in any respect. All it does is the the new that this is a caring society who looks after each other. Then when an unspeakable thing such as war happens many of these same new people turn round and ask why they were killed. This community has fallen a long way from what it was before. Family members of fallen crew leaders should not ask why they were killed. They should understand that when a family is taken out it is wiped off the face of this earth. If your lucky enough to survive a war then you have more than likely brokered a deal with the devil himself. No matter who you are, when you join a family you make a pledge to them, as you advance through the ranks your ties get stronger with that family. For you to go an join another family once your crew leader has been taken out in an act of war is in my eyes an act of disrespect to your fallen boss. You've showed that you had no value in their life, that you were only using them for protection. One that protection is taken away you look to another for protection, where is the loyalty I ask. Your obviously only looking out for yourself. Now I'll address those new to our world in full. They are under no disillusion to the life they are taking. This life is revolving round crime after all and death is a risk we all must take when we wake up each morning. Why then I ask should those who are fresh off the boat be afforded more time to wander around without a boss. They are making money on anothers turf they are doing everything that we do, only they don't have someone taking a cut of their earnings. This life is far from hard to understand, there are many guides out there and those who are available to help those new to our shores. Yet still we have people who take their time, harass out shop keepers, tie up those shady figures we talk with to deal our drugs and they are still allowed to roam around freely. Our society is built on blood, bonds are formed to reduce this bloodshed and to allow business to continue yet still blood is our foundation. |
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| Reply by: Broken at Dec 13, '08 20:42 | |
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| Why don't we just delete the 48 hour rule and no one can take advantage of it. Wouldn't that be the simple and easiest solution? | |
| Reply by: Skorpeon at Dec 13, '08 21:12 | |
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Well Skorpean that would be the easiest thing to do for those new to our shores. Give them the allotted 24 hrs that they have. But I fear that this is something that city hall might not like. Although while they are responsible for the general upkeep of our world. the day to day living is down to ourselves. Doing so would not though make a difference to those who are left homeless after a war. This is something that the Family heads themselves need to do, or not do as the case may be. It's the leaders who offer up protection to the homeless after wars. All they need to do is well, nothing. |
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| Reply by: Broken at Dec 13, '08 21:21 | |
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| Skorpeon you'll make you the deleter, sound good? | |
| Reply by: Sal_Giaquinto at Dec 13, '08 21:40 | |
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Hayley listens to the Don of Detroit speak, and nods her head in agreement with some of the discussion. She steps forward to share her thoughts on the matter. This is something that I have been pondering the last couple of days. I am very glad you brought this up Zoey. And I have to say, I pretty much agree with you on all of it. Many of these rules were put in place long ago, and we follow them because its what we were taught to do. But every leader has their own rules for their family, and not everyone has to agree with them. Who's business is it how you run your family, or what rules you put in place. I have always thought the protection after a war idea was a bit silly. Family should be willing to die with their leader. And whats the point of taking out a leader for whatever reason, then turning around and protecting their family. It makes no sense if you think about it. And as far as the 48 hour rule, it is a little bit in excess. Any returning player knows to join a family. For the new ones, I know that they may not understand this at first. That's where we need to step in and offer some help. If you see someone wandering around without a clue, help them out a bit. And it is very easy to tell who is new, or even who is taking advantage of the rule. 24 hours is more than enough to find your way around, and even find a family. I have to applaud you Zoey for standing up and sharing what you believe in. I know it can be rough for one leader to go against the grain, and do something like this. As I said, I have been thinking a lot of these very topics, and considering where I stand. I can see how people may thing this is just a way to get free kills, but its not at all about that. Its about changing our world, and moving things towards how the mafia should be. Not everyone will agree with certain things, and you only have to follow what your family puts in place. As I have stated, I do not believe in the war protection or the 48 hour rule. You have given me the confidence to share my thoughts and stand up for my beliefs. And after giving it much thought, I am no longer providing protection in times of war, nor will I punish my family for breaking either of these rules put in place so long ago. But to be clear, I will not encourage my members to just go out and shoot, and be reckless about it. I believe in giving people a chance, and will always make an attempt to help out the new ones. Feeling satisfied with her reply, Hayley moves to the back of the crowd, listening to what others have to say. |
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| Reply by: Hayley at Dec 13, '08 21:40 | |
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| You are in charge, and its nice of you to explain your views on things so that we can commit our crimes around you in peace so that business doesnt cease. | |
| Reply by: TonyPerez at Dec 14, '08 00:33 | |
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Pure_Healm, I heard you ask the following question. "Say your family go out and murder all the -48 hour old gangsters. How can you prove that they all had relatives and fathers/mothers in the mafia?" Ruthless Inc. will not go out and murder all mobsters under 48 hours old. There is still a rule I expect them to follow. It's not up to them to decide if someone is taking advantage of the rule. It's up to me. As for the second part of your question I must respond to with a question of my own. Who do mob bosses have to prove anything to? Zoey smiled at the other Don who joined the conversation. Hayley, I appreciate your input. It's always good to hear another leader's opinion. |
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| Reply by: Zoey at Dec 14, '08 00:54 | |
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