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| The one they call Oliver | Started by: Signature on Nov 20, '07 15:47 |
| Is it just me, or is anyone else beginning to see a pattern with these rogues that are popping up? I am only really aware of two of the rogues' stories, but I have been told that at least FOUR of the last ones have all come from Oliver's family. Doesn't that worry anyone, do you ask yourselves what could be going on in that family to cause them to go rogue when it is so frowned upon? Why do they consider that their only option? Could it be because they are handed empty promises day after day? What kind of boss leads on their own family members with promises that they know they will never fulfill? Why would a boss do this to their own? Well Oliver actually answered this question himself one day in the coffee shop when called out by one of these rogues. He said, and I quote "I didn't want to hurt your feelings"!!!! So instead of "hurting his feelings" and telling him the truth from the beginning, he would tell him what he wanted to hear with no intentions of ever following through. The result ended with a crew leader dying and many ending up homeless. I was also given information that Oliver knew of that LV take down at least a week prior to it happening. Then Oliver tells another family member that they are going to be authed but turns around and takes it away the next day. Again resulting in a crew leader dying and many more homeless in the streets. Instead of attacking the rogue and calling them trash why not step back and for once ask yourself why? People are just too afraid to stand up and point out the faults of someone that has a good gun. Remember this, just because a CL has a good gun, doesn't mean they are a good CL. It takes more than a good shot to run a family well. Obviously Oliver is lacking something, maybe you should all place your interest in him for once and find out what it is. | |
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Here is something for you... i read the first few lines of this and stopped, You know absolutely NOTHING about this subject. Do you know WHY Skorpeon went rogue? because Oliver refused to auth him right now. Sorry if making someone wait for auth makes them go rogue, we cannot predict people's reactions, we are not fortune tellers. And of course most of the rogues will come from our family. We have the most members and the highest ranks. It's simple Math, something that I'm sure you haven't quite grasped yet. |
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| Reply by: Bed at Nov 20, '07 15:50 | |
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Instead of attacking the rogue and calling them trash why not step back and for once ask yourself why? The question "why?" is not relavent. There is no excuse for going rogue, not ever. We do not live in a lifestyle where freespeech, equality or even fulfilled promises are givens. They are all conditional, and the sooner people accept the world does not revolve around them, the better. |
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| Reply by: Trigliani at Nov 20, '07 15:50 | |
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Please see me about enrolling in my course, "Mafia Propaganda 101". I see potential, but you have alot of work to do if you ever want to become a professional. |
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| Reply by: maxwell at Nov 20, '07 15:50 | |
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Bed, perhaps if you weren't the RHM of the crew i'd care a bit more on what you say, anyways, I can already see the flaming of Signature on the horizon. So i'll stop here. |
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| Reply by: Enraged at Nov 20, '07 15:53 | |
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It's all very simple, really. A man who has the impaitence and insolence to go rogue is not the kind of man who should have been given his own family in the first place. Period. |
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| Reply by: Radha at Nov 20, '07 15:54 | |
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Enraged, me being RHM has nothing to do with cold hard FACTS. Did I say anything that was incorrect or false? Nope. |
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| Reply by: Bed at Nov 20, '07 15:56 | |
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too many words not enough pauses. You need to enroll in my course for Public Speaking 101 |
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| Reply by: DennyCrane at Nov 20, '07 15:56 | |
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| This would have carried more weight if it had been presented in a "prettier" manner. It is painful to read. Aside from that as angry thugs go you are fairly atypical. You make a heated speech, back it up with conjecture and expect the masses to accept it as gospel. Not going to happen sadly. Well when I say that I mean the important people don't care enough to give it any credence. us thugs are not important my equally small friend. | |
| Reply by: Sir_Fluffington at Nov 20, '07 15:58 | |
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I can kind of see where you are coming from, but Bed is right. Oliver has the most members, with the highest rankers, as he said. The mere fact that Skorpeon wasn't authed right away is a veyr poor excuse to go rogue. I was one of the highest rankers in Oliver's family for I would say quite a while. And yes, I did ask for auth, but I stepped back, and let Oliver do his thing, it is his family, and he shall choose who to auth from his own family. And besides, I was patient, and look at me now. I finally fulfilled the dream of becoming a CL. Patience is a thing that lies in only a few of us, not all carry it. |
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| Reply by: Jay-C at Nov 20, '07 15:58 | |
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| How are we to know this is the truth? You could easily be lying to keep Oliver in the safe-zone. Anyways, I really don't give a fuck about politics on a game, so really this is my last concern. | |
| Reply by: Enraged at Nov 20, '07 15:59 | |
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Skorpeon was the same man who boldly proclaimed himself to be "Old school." Sometimes I wonder if people around here simply pick terms that sound impressive to apply to themselves, without any thought as to their actual meaning. This community relies exclusively on the structure provided by the Bosses and the families they run across the cities of America, calling the shots on who can take the reigns. "Old school" as a term represents the older generation of wise guys who knew that respect for the Boss was everything. The Boss is the Boss is the Boss. IE: Not the young Turks who think its their time simpkly because they decide it is so. If you are going to engage in some piss-poor PR, acting as an apologist for the delusional isn't a good starting point. Loyalty can bring reward. Death brings nothing. |
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| Reply by: Rhydian-Roberts at Nov 20, '07 16:01 | |
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| Enraged, how about you do some research before making snidy little comments then? Almost everyone knows that skorpeon went rogue because he wasn't given auth. He even said it himself. | |
| Reply by: Bed at Nov 20, '07 16:06 | |
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Bed maybe if you would have bothered to read past the first few lines you would see where I said Oliver would promise auth knowing full well he would never give it. You can predict that someone being promised auth and then never given it is going to piss them off. Of course you have the most members, member whores usually do...... As for you, Trigliani, we also don't live in a world that is run on emotion and not hurting peoples feelings, someone should give Oliver that memo. And Sir_Fluffington, here is some asprin to help with the pain, suck it up pretty boy. Who cares how "pretty" it is, as long as it speaks the truth. Jay-C, I see what you are saying. Maybe if Oliver had been a good boss and simply said I don't think you are ready and I will let you know when the time is right all would be fine. It all comes back to empty promises based on hurt feelings. You can't tell them they are getting set up the next day and then take it away. Oliver, if you are going to play a man then act like one. |
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| Reply by: Signature at Nov 20, '07 16:07 | |
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| lol I love upsetting you people... get so hyped up and upset over this shit. Well, I wish I could keep the fire burning, but i'm bored now. | |
| Reply by: Enraged at Nov 20, '07 16:08 | |
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I am actually surprised to see that you as an earner are still alive after attacking a well established leader in the streets. You know nothing of the facts. Id tell you the same thing if I was in the same family as you. |
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| Reply by: Luongo at Nov 20, '07 16:09 | |
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Bed maybe if you would have bothered to read past the first few lines you would see where I said Oliver would promise auth knowing full well he would never give it. You can predict that someone being promised auth and then never given it is going to piss them off. Of course you have the most members, member whores usually do...... Oliver never said never, so get your facts straight. Oliver said NOT NOW, HUGE difference. As for the member whoring... LOL. Maybe the fact that we're the longest running family has something to do with the fact that we're the biggest. Your comments are quite comical, I like how you're trying to make things up, trying to speculate, trying to cause a stir. Way to jump on the bandwagon! |
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| Reply by: Bed at Nov 20, '07 16:11 | |
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Luongo! You don't know meeeee, bitch! (lol I love that line) |
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| Reply by: Enraged at Nov 20, '07 16:11 | |
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| Never mind my last speech. I have been on a large does of skitzophrenical medications. | |
| Reply by: Luongo at Nov 20, '07 16:11 | |
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| I know you Enraged and you're quite the imbecile. | |
| Reply by: Bed at Nov 20, '07 16:12 | |
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