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| The one they call Oliver | Started by: Signature on Nov 20, '07 15:47 |
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I find this funny,rogue(is so over used) just cause someone is called rogue doesnt mean they're a quote on quote rogue cause the truth of the matter is more than half the people that leave their family's and start out on there own is cause not everyone get a fair shake *cough* haters *cough* in their respectful family...now the real rogues are the ones that leave their family's to go off and kill the mass *cough*. So please people show the rogues a little respect cause they aint all bad as for the part of oliver being a shat leader well,I'm not one to judge so in my book he's a pretty stand up guy.(sometimes -_-) PS.I love my shat grammar and my shat typing/spelling |
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| Reply by: vincent_- at Nov 20, '07 17:23 | |
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| Reply by: Olivero at Nov 20, '07 17:30 | |
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What you been smoking, my man? Show rogues respect? The same rogues who spit in the face of the family that protected them long enough to get to where they are? ANYONE who is not in a legitimate family by choice, is a rogue. That includes unsponsored Gangsters who don't join families. We just tolerate them for a short period of time...why, don't ask me. Not get a fair shake by their families? That's the biggest load of crap. What exactly is a "fair shake"? The problem that they think they deserve more than they actually do. So they donated a bit to the Boss and did enough petties to qualify for a higher rank. Big deal. That's the least amount they should do. It doesn't mean they deserve special treatment. As far as your showing of sympathy for rogues, I'd advise you to get a handle on your perspective. I think all the leaders have just about had enough of this bullshit, and are tired of staying up sleepless nights to pick up the pieces of some twat's discontent, that there will be much less tolerance for those who have their own agendas from this point forward. When you join a family, you are hired to do a job FOR THE BOSS. You are not given a place to hang your hat in order to work for yourself. |
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| Reply by: maxwell at Nov 20, '07 17:34 | |
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Yeah I don't understand all the pity being shown for the rouges in this thread. No one that has gone rouge recently has HAD to go rouge. They all made their respective choices and dug their own graves so to say. |
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| Reply by: Mercy at Nov 20, '07 17:38 | |
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When you join a family, you are hired to do a job FOR THE BOSS. You are not given a place to hang your hat in order to work for yourself. What you mean everyone is working for them selfs in some way or form dont get shit twisted.I love where I'm at but that doesnt mean someone else next to me or in my family is.people have their own little version of what a fair shake means to them,Hell i just want to rank,play and maybe kill a few people i dont like while doing it but i follow the rules of my family with out a problem. |
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| Reply by: vincent_- at Nov 20, '07 17:39 | |
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Of course, not everyone is going to be happy. Some may not feel like they are treated fair. The simple truth is, you can't please everyone. Does that mean those who feel they aren't receiving what they are due are entitled to turn their back on their family? That's some shit loyalty. You join a family, and you take a blood oath. You live and die for those under the same HQ. It isn't about "me", but about "we". That's just the way it is. Anyone who thinks differently won't make a good leader, because they won't care about their family. |
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| Reply by: maxwell at Nov 20, '07 18:02 | |
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I'm an old bastard and I haven't been promoted to mademan yet. You have any idea how much cash I bring in for Oliver and you know what she treats me like crap. fuck it I'm going rogue.... Ha like fuck, you guys have no idea how many people I've watched rank past me and you know what it doesn't bother me. I know that my time will come and it's not depending on whether the boss is gonna give it to me it's when I decide to get my ass in gear and work for it. Anyone who expects to be handed things just cause they feel they deserve it needs a damned hard kick up the arse and if they decide to throw their toys out the pram and go rogue cause they can't work properly and don't have the patience to wait for the boss to decide when they are ready needs shot plain and simple. |
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| Reply by: Spanky_McSpangle at Nov 20, '07 18:45 | |
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-Skorpeon- didnt go rogue because he wasnt authorized....you speak as though its fact....when in reality it couldnt be further from truth....assumptions and induendos at best Excellent spin on the situation if you were a writing a fictional story. In this case however "You have lost the plot" |
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| Reply by: ColdHearted at Nov 20, '07 18:57 | |
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Excellent spin, eh? Funny, because he admitted it in the coffee shops earlier today? Are you saying he's lying and you're the one that's right? That's awfully ego-maniacal of you. |
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| Reply by: Bed at Nov 20, '07 19:03 | |
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Of course, not everyone is going to be happy. Some may not feel like they are treated fair. The simple truth is, you can't please everyone. Does that mean those who feel they aren't receiving what they are due are entitled to turn their back on their family? That's some shit loyalty. You join a family, and you take a blood oath. You live and die for those under the same HQ. It isn't about "me", but about "we". That's just the way it is. Anyone who thinks differently won't make a good leader, because they won't care about their family. Reply by: maxwell I understand this already..But Loyalty is tested when your in certain family's I mean lets say you have been in a family and for some random reason he killing off people in his own family *cough* not only discoduck has done this.Would you stay and be loyal or will you got rogue and make your own family without the death threat above your head. |
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| Reply by: vincent_- at Nov 20, '07 19:54 | |
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Oliver is the best.....Dont talk bad about him, he has taken me in and has givin' me so many chances and i honor him for that. Over and Out |
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| Reply by: The_Truth at Nov 21, '07 00:53 | |
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*Lighting up a cigarette, Slevin walks from the back of the crowd, where he has been quietly observing the conversations. Lighting up a cigarette, he flicks the lit match at Signature, and takes a long drag, exhaling through his nose.* "Oliver has always been a good leader to me, and I know a good leader when I see one. So hear this, carry on talking shit about my boss, and I'll pull the fucking trigger on you myself." *As Slevin turns to walk away, he knocks into Signature with his shoulder, and mutters under his breath.* "Bitch..." |
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| Reply by: Slevin_Kelevra at Nov 21, '07 05:02 | |
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Shakes his head at signature and looks at him and starts to speak... Listen I don't appreciate you coming out here and questioning my family and trashing the much-respected name of my boss. The gift of free will has made a lot of people do stupid things and the thing is you can't stop them once they have made up their mind. I look around my family and see friends, warriors, a bunch of loyal Mafiosi that are proud to call themselves a Badass and will give anything at any given time to protect their family. Anyway that's all im going to say for now, Dakine. |
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| Reply by: DaKine at Nov 21, '07 05:08 | |
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*After listening to a bunch of opinions Guardian finaly makes his approach on the streets* First i would like to say that i don't appreciate some peoples words used against my leader.Secondly,Don't come out here judging how my leader is running his family when im sure you couldn't do a better job.He has over 80 people in his family and he does his best to operate as he see's fit.In this family nothing is given,Its earned and if you havn't earned that rank then your not going to get it.It's as simple as that.You think because you've done crimes, Felony's, Jail breaks,Killing You've earned the next rank? It's not as simple as that you need to work hard and earn it by interacting and being out there putting your ass on the line day after day trying to be the best you can be. Every family has it's rogues, heck like everyone is saying we do hold one of the biggest HQ's in this world and how are we to know when someone is going to go on a shooting spree. Everytime one of our members have went rogue we've cleaned our mess.We can't prevent something if we dont know its going to happen now can we? Some people just simply get bored or just enjoy the killing.I think that Oliver is doing a great Job Controlling a big HQ and Oliver if your reading this i just want to give you a "CHEERS" for being one of the best fucking crew leaders that i have ever served with. Oliver is a great person and i've learned many things from him.Heck i was a nobody and i've grown to be something.I'm proud to say that i am a member of the BaddAss Inc.Here were not just another crew on the streets,Were a life time bond, a brotherhood.We look out for one another and would go far beyond the extreme to help one another.Oliver goes day to day making hard decisions and he try's his best to run a great family and trying to make everyone happy but when your running such a big family its hard to do that.When everyone wants auth you can't go tell everyone yes you need to decline people and that's what Oliver has done.Oliver aint afraid to take action to tell people no.I pitty how people can stand there and come to the streets judging him when they don't even know what they're talking about.Oliver won't even rank people if they havn't deserved to be and yet you tell me he's afraid to tell people no they're not getting auth? He interacts with the other family's Great Leaders to try and see for openings and talk about trying to auth people. When applying for a crew Leader position they take there time because they want to make a wise decision hoping that it will be the best for the people of this community.They don't auth every random person. Well im here to say that as a member of Oliver's Family i am More the Honored To have "Bad Ass Inc" Printed on my arms for life. I've grown into this family and thanks to Oliver i've grown to be a smart outstanding person.I've been told no plenty of times and i accept the decisions of my Leader and Rhm because down the line i know that they're whats best for me. While growing up with Oliver i've seen him as nice respectful person but don't get me wrong here i've seen a blunt side of him being a cold hearted prick and i respect him for it. You can't run a family going around promising things to each and every member of ones family and With Oliver he flat out tells you YES or NO or he'll have to wait and find out about it. *Guardian Raises His beer to one of the most Outstanding Leader's He's served with A.k.A "Oliver MC-FUCKING Tavish!" Cheers to you Sir your a good person and for the people who can't see this i feel bad for them. Im More then Honored to work with you and i look forward to the Futur* |
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| Reply by: -TheGuardian- at Nov 21, '07 07:15 | |
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Wow, Guardian. With all due respect. That was the most biased piece of ass kissing i have ever head. Period. |
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| Reply by: gins7ers at Nov 21, '07 07:47 | |
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Shakes his head at some people.. We are allowed to share our views here in the street but remember your represent your family when you talk .. If it was up to me, half you people would be "put to sleep" for your actions in the street and word choices. |
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| Reply by: Proof at Nov 21, '07 08:20 | |
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*Slevin stops as he hears Proof's comment, and turns to face him.* "Proof, it's all about knowing your place. If some little unsponsored Citizen wants to talk shit about my boss, a Consigliere, I have every right to put him straight in whatever manner I see fit. My words aren't harsh, in fact, they're pretty restrained, considering..." |
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| Reply by: Slevin_Kelevra at Nov 21, '07 09:59 | |
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*Standing behind Slevin Olivero listens to him defending himself* *He walks forward* Slevin, I think he was talking about the guy who spoke directly before him rather than you. I might be wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with your comments so I don't see why that would be directed at you. *Gives Slevin a reassuring pat on the back* |
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| Reply by: Olivero at Nov 21, '07 10:10 | |
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*Stops infront of the crowd and after listening to everyone he starts to give a speech of his own. Even though, I have only been on these shores for a limited amount of time, I know that Mr. McTavish is a good leader. I've had nothing, but a positive experience serving under him. I've allready been helped so much by this man and his family. Im proud to call my self a Badass. All you people talking bad about my boss, have no idea about what your talking about. With a family this large, a few bad apples are bound to pop up. Every family has it's problems, it's just convienent for all of you to stand on your soap boxes and talk bad about a great man you obvously do not know much about. My suggestion is for you nay sayers to hold your tongue on the streets and keep it confined to your smoke filled back rooms, because we do not want to hear it. *McFinnigan walks away in disgust clasping his shillely tightly |
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| Reply by: McFinnigan at Nov 21, '07 12:51 | |
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Sigh. Obviously you are going to say he's the best thing since slice fucking bread. Hes your boss! Sheesh. All of your judgements have been clouded by the fact he is your boss. From an outside view, others may not find him impressive in the least. Paranoid even. Then again i am not from his family so my opinion is also biased, the other way. At the end of the day all our opinions are nothing more than just that. All wrong. All right. All different. Your all idiots, including me. We can all be idiots together. gins7ers does his typical trademark gangster man depart from the soapbox and smokes he gangsterman cuban cigar. He then threatens some hobo, in a gangster man fashion, and laughs at gangstermen cliches. |
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| Reply by: gins7ers at Nov 21, '07 14:51 | |
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