Who in blazes are Chamberlain and Churchill?

Brutus - some of the facts that I stated aren't to your liking. That doesn't stop them being facts.
You'll notice I was referring to a previous explanation for 'The War' of a few weeks ago - please excuse my typo.

Here are some more facts. NY would love to take on and destroy Philly and vise versa - both are scared to do so. But, ultimately, one will.

Yes NY has LV - But Philly has LA and many friends in many other cities.

The key to this power struggle will be the occupation of SL and Detroit.

NY does have more men and, maybe, more people capable of killing - BUT Philly has a formidable war-mongering infrastructure.

A close friend from within Philly tells me that they have been banned from commenting on these matters. I think this is indicative of the two cities - Philly is tightly controlled and disciplined whereas NY is a bit 'looser'.

Philly are in a bit of a crisis at the moment - if you imagine a pie chart with colours - last night the Cosa Nostra pie chart was 50/50, today it is at least 60/40 in NY's favour.

But, as we have seen before, all it takes is for one GF to fall and then the city falls underneath it..

Are you actually being serious?

Yes.

They have been for months.
Reply by: Gwarble at Feb 09, '10 11:20

Couldn't have said it better Gwarble.

As for Woodstien,

I seriously hope that you choose to let your bloodline die out and stop coming to these shores, we have enough retards who do not spam our streets, you think we want ones that do?

I think he is Gwarble. :'(

Hoopi..

Q might have taken the shot expecting NY to approach Philly (who he basically worked for) and sought some kind of settlement.  Or maybe he wanted HY and Philly to settle things.  Or, maybe, he just got bored and took a shot..  I'd say all three are at least equally plausible..

Quirinus worked for Philly? He was Godfather of a city you muppet. Alliances are one thing, working for someone is another. Secondly, do you think anyone would really expect not to die when they shoot a well-respected Underboss in a powerful city? Far less that he would expect Deimne to go to Philly about it. You are deluded. If your bloodline has been on these shores for 8 years, which seems questionable, then you are not the sharpest tool in the box are you?

Finally though, you might've just hit the nail on the head. He got bored and took a shot. Possible, probable, irrelevant.

Q might have taken the shot expecting NY to approach Philly (who he basically worked for) and sought some kind of settlement.

Godfathers work for themselves alone retard.

Hey look, I'm from Philly, I'm talking. Guess your man on the inside is alittle off key.

Hoobi - Q might have been GF of a city - but who gave him his position and al;so the city?

Philly have kept quiet about he whole thing.  I suspect a plan went awry.

Yes, been here 8 years.  8 long years..

The fact is, whenever anyone advances theories or thoughts on the actions of this thing of ours, the same ol' bunch of trolls come out and start their sycophantic merry little dance.

WEhat I'm talking about is the likelyhood of serious strife in the coming weeks.  Everyone seems to blindly follow the line of  man with no name and Hoopi.  Retards like Richard can't think for themselves and should be the object of pity but my thoughts are appreciated by those with a deep and historical understanding of this thing of ours.

The man on the 'inside' tells him to eat sand as well. I'm not sure its a trustworthy source of information.

Obvious propaganda and rebel-rousing aside, I for one would like to thank Woodstein for enlightening us all that often times in the Mafia leaders occasionally betray each other and go to the mattresses over matters such as power, money, and territory.

These post-war street appearances by orphans of slain mobsters never cease to amaze. Seriously, no one is able to make heads or tails as to why their mothers or fathers were killed in wars started over the decisions of their leaders?

As far as your PHI conspiracy theory, do you truely believe that Philly sat around brainstorming ideas to eliminate their allies in New York, and the best the could come up with was to kill WillHayes???? It's an interesting theory, I'll give you that, but a highly unikely one. Unlikely and laughable. Considering New York all but won the LV/NO/STL vs PHI/LA/DT war for Philly, I highly doubt they would be looking to weaken them, much less lose them as allies.

As I stated, if you would like to take one so-called fact and present it to me, I would be happy to explain to you why it is false. I did not analyse your entire speech because it was so completely riddled with horseshit that it was easier to point out the six actual facts.

I'm being objective here. Nothing is to my liking, or not to my liking. I am about as apathetic a person as you are going to find. What I am doing is being reasonable and objective.

More facts, eh? Ok, there are relatively few of them, so I will point out exactly how each of them are rubbish.

NY would love to take on and destroy Philly and vise versa - both are scared to do so.

Well, no. You seem to forget the Scipita was raised in New York and still has strong ties to it. As much as you would like to think otherwise, these two cities are allies, not adversaries. In any event, New York is hardly afraid of anyone. Deimne could pretty much destroy the world, if he so chose.

Yes NY has LV - But Philly has LA and many friends in many other cities.

Yes, many other cities, like New York. LA and NY.  If they have close ties to other cities, that is news to me (and everyone else, presumably).

The key to this power struggle will be the occupation of SL and Detroit.

Wow, two unoccupied cities are the keys to the power struggle? It would have made more sense then if Philly would have maintained a powerful entity in St Louis, rather than rendering it vacant. Why oh why did Scipita send Queeranus on a suicide mission?

NY does have more men and, maybe, more people capable of killing - BUT Philly has a formidable war-mongering infrastructure.

Philly has what? A war-mongering infrastructure? Like highways that are bloodthirsty? And how does this make them NY's equal?

A close friend from within Philly tells me that they have been banned
from commenting on these matters. I think this is indicative of the two
cities - Philly is tightly controlled and disciplined whereas NY is a
bit 'looser'.

Philly is tightly controlled and disciplined, which is why one of their allied Godfathers went AWOL last night. New York is "looser" because they have the power to say what they think without fear of repercussion. Huge lol at "banned from commenting on these matters", as well. Like your comedy bit here is a serious concern of anyone.

Philly are in a bit of a crisis at the moment - if you imagine a pie
chart with colours - last night the Cosa Nostra pie chart was 50/50,
today it is at least 60/40 in NY's favour.

You're sniffing glue, aren't you? Stop it right now. No it wasn't 50/50. No it isn't 60/40. First of all, there is no adverse relationship. If there were, your division of power would be way off base. You're talking about abstract concepts right now, so there isn't much I could offer you other than the fact that everybody else seems to know the political power structure except you, and you are plugging your ears and shouting "LA LA LA LA LA LA"

"but my thoughts are appreciated by those with a deep and historical understanding of this thing of ours"

Atleast he has a sense of humour.

Woodstein you are barking up the wrong tree.

You have seen two and two out there added them together and somehow ended up with six.

Any idiot presented with some half assed comments could make up any type of story to suit their personal desires. Lets take you and your blood line as a prime example.

You quite clearly have an issue with Godmother Scipta and Philly. You remain of the belief that you can some how orchestrate a war between Philly and NY by constantly spouting shite on the streets. Do you truly believe that either the godfather of New York or the Godmother of Philly would have got to the position they currently hold without being able to see the wood from the chaffe.

Your plan quite clearly isn't going to work, so please do many of us a favor and get over it. I can point you in the direction of a very good Barber by the name of Brutus who I know would only be to happy to cut off your hair, the fact he uses a gun to do so and has a rather unpleasant reputation of not getting repeat customers is a slight side issue.

Romeo, you have it all wrong - I have the upmost respect for Godmother Scipita and I wouldn't for a second believe that my discussions would lead to war.  But debate is a good thing, no?

Tommy walks past and notices some CIVILIAN talking about all these cities and plans from Philly, Tommy approaches the 'Retard' and says

Your bloodline may have been coming here for eight years, but you haven't been here more than a day. I think it would be best if you publicly apologized to everyone that you have argued with, shut your mouth and go home. You obviously know jack shit about what your talking about. I can say for a fact that Philly had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any of this, other that Quirinus was from Philly. I could quote Godmother ScipitaRourke now. She sent a warning about shooting at STL and NY members, one of the lines was "I know this is a difficult one with our history with Q, but Q fucked up and we're not going to clean up his mess." So there you have it. Now can you please shut up about something that you are clueless about!!

I think he had two and two and added them up to be 677 thousand.

And this isn't a debate. This is ramblings from someone who has an agenda that everyone spotted immediately.

To date, LV have not capitalised on the unmanaged city - do they lack willpower or is there negotiations going on about who gets what?

It is not because we lack any sort of firepower or negotiation skills. It is simply because we do not see the need at the moment. There is no housing shortage, and no leader that overwhelmingly deserves their own city. Also, it is not souly on Las Vegas's shoulders to designate auth to Detroit. Iota and Chicago were an equal contributor to the war effort, and therefore should have equal say in who is to be installed there.

As has become apparent in the last 24 hours, choosing a city head is something that should be through about carefully to ensure bad things don't happen. The last thing we want is a replay of what has happened.

When someone stands out against the rest of the black and gray they may get their shot.

All this chattering is making my tunnels hot and bothered.

But debate is a good thing, no?

This isnt a debate, dont even lower the word debate to this kind of level.

Debates consist of arguments and facts presented on one side, while the other side represtents facts and arguments which usually conflict with the former.

This farce you have going, does not present any kind of knowledge or evidence of what you are saying. You are speaking bullshit as Brutus puts it, I think you have a far over active imagination. Or perhaps you suffer from an illness that makes you BELIEVE that you are right.

Hoobi - Q might have been GF of a city - but who gave him his position and al;so the city?

Philly have kept quiet about he whole thing.  I suspect a plan went awry.

Yes, been here 8 years.  8 long years..

The fact is, whenever anyone advances theories or thoughts on the actions of this thing of ours, the same ol' bunch of trolls come out and start their sycophantic merry little dance.

WEhat I'm talking about is the likelyhood of serious strife in the coming weeks.  Everyone seems to blindly follow the line of  man with no name and Hoopi.  Retards like Richard can't think for themselves and should be the object of pity but my thoughts are appreciated by those with a deep and historical understanding of this thing of ours.

Woobstein, what is your point regarding where Quirinus originated? Unless I'm mistaken, Iota, Lucretia and Scipita all hailed from New York originally, no? You know what this means then? Holy shit, Quirinus was actually working for New York indirectly. It's an inside job! Gwarble, get the Barble on it! 

Kates has her roots in Detroit, yet Pedro is dead and she lives? WTF is going on here, it's madness! 

Hoopi turns off his sarcasm generator.

You are saying people are being sycophantic? If Philly are as powerful as you would have us believe, wouldn't the sycophants be standing firmly behind your claim and praising the strength of the superpower that is Philly to suit their motives and win favour with the most influential city? As it happens, they're all standing on the other side of the argument. Hmm, maybe we are sycophants after all. Go Team NY. Deimne you rock.

I can see why it's been a long 8 years though...every day must be a struggle.