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What are streets for? | Started by: sneakyrat on Mar 09, '10 12:29 |
Sneakyrat stands in the middle of the croud, he grabs a crate... stands up on it and speaks out loud and clear for all to listen... |
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mortuis walks up and listens to sneakyrat. "i have no disagreement with you, provided you show respect. i often weigh in on such discussions. however, if a fresh off the boater starts by saying somthing rude or disrespectful, not only will i call them on it, i will make sure others back me up. that said, if they are respectful, i will show them the same courtasy." |
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Reply by: mortuis at Mar 09, '10 12:33 | |
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Of course if you listen to my speech i am referring mostly to the respectful one. I've have mentions the other types to categorize the different kinds of people. But my issue is more for the high ranks lacky the respect for a respecful fresh off the boater. Whoever lacks respect, does'nt deserve it... he certainly does'nt deserve mine for that matter. Just to be clear on my thoughts here! |
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Reply by: sneakyrat at Mar 09, '10 12:38 | |
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So about the word lacky... it is meant to be lacking... my mouth is a little dry! |
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Reply by: sneakyrat at Mar 09, '10 12:40 | |
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I have to agree with both of you esteemed gentlemen. We must have respect. We must also have differences of opinion for debate to survive and become a debate where those who wish may state their opinion as well. We can all over look the odd word that someone says wrong, that is human nature. But when most, if not all,families demand repect it should be carried over into the wider community. |
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Reply by: Crafty-Cockney at Mar 09, '10 12:44 | |
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getting up from his table on the other side of the street he approaches sneakyrat |
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Reply by: Dante_Balboni at Mar 09, '10 12:46 | |
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Woken by a loud shout, Alfonce noded his head in agreement with the sneakyrat thinking to himself that respect is the pure basis of our way of life. It is what makes our world spin and the streets are the center stage for the major happenings within it. There's no better time nor venue to display that of which is expected and required of each and every one of our citizens. |
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Reply by: Alfonce at Mar 09, '10 13:00 | |
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Having listened to the speech, Tyrion walks over and shakes sneakyrat by the hand. |
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Reply by: Tyrion at Mar 09, '10 13:06 | |
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I am not very far from being a 'fresh off the boat' person and I can say that I agree totally with your statements, gentlemen. Respect and Power are the two things that need to be addressed here.Of course, if you are powerful, then you automatically demand respect from every body around you and this seems to be clear for every body in our world.However, the fact that respect deserves respect is not that clear. A few people feel that respect should be given only to those who are above us in the food chain.While they demand respect.We must also look at those who are below us in the pecking order but still are respectful towards us, then they too deserve for it to be reciprocated. ~J~ |
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Reply by: Joel at Mar 09, '10 13:22 | |
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Alexander listens to the debate with humor. After several people agreeing with the man, he decides to speak up. So, let me get this straight. You want people of every rank in our life to respect these civilians that have made no name for themselves? You want godfathers to come out here and respect thugs? It seems that's the way it's headed nowadays, with these new people. However, I completely disagree with you. A civilian has to earn respect. This comes with making friends and climbing the ladder of our society.
This line particularly tickles my fancy. So, you are saying that if a godfather were to come out here disrespecting thugs and civilians, you wouldn't respect him? I am quite sure you would end up in a pine box if this were to occur. There are many examples of this in the past. The thing most people do not tend to understand about our society is that we are a hardened criminals. We are people who earn and take respect. You may not like Godfather JoeBlow over there in New Orleans, but you'd damn sure better respect him. No matter how he talks or walks. The idea of respecting every civilian that comes across those waters on a boat is sickening to me. Do they have the right to speak in the streets? Yes. However, do they have a right to be respected? Hell no. My beliefs may be old-fashioned, but they won't be changing for some random guy with no name walking down the street. Alexander walks away, shaking his head slightly. |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 09, '10 13:25 | |
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Alexander I think you might have missed the point a little. You don't have to actually respect a person to show them respect in the streets for what they are saying. |
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Reply by: Dante_Balboni at Mar 09, '10 13:31 | |
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Of course Sir,while I agree that powerful men demand respect from every body who is less powerful than they are I feel, in my humble opinion that if a Civilian was to bring up something important that required attention in our world and he was to use the proper manner of addressing it then the issue would have to be taken note of at least instead of casting it away just because a civilian brought it up for discussion. ~J~ |
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Reply by: Joel at Mar 09, '10 13:31 | |
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Dante, I am not missing the point. What I am saying is that the people in the upper echelons of our society shouldn't have to show respect to anyone lower than themselves. Whether that be in the streets, in the coffee shops, or in a business. What is being suggested here is that we listen to every random guy that walks in the streets with something to say. We as members of this society have more important things to do than show respect to people that have not yet earned a name. As for them earning respect, it starts in the family. You get well known and make connections. That's how it has always worked. You don't just walk into the street and try to make a point against people who could have you killed with a snap of their fingers. Sure, these little guys can come out here and rant all they want about whatever they want. However, if I don't like it, I am not going to show them respect just because they learned how to talk. I am quite sure there are others out there who feel the same way. Street presence is important, but giving these young mobsters the idea that they can come out here expecting respect from everyone will end up in a lot of deaths. |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 09, '10 13:41 | |
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Alexander... if a Godfather/Godmother or leader disrespects someone of low rank, then they should have a good reason for it. Even if they are high rank and have reached such esteemed levels. If someone is respectful, do you think bashing on the guys head will help him? Hell no... and then what would our streets be for? They would be only for the leaders and Godfather/Godmother. And yes... if someone is disrespectful, he does not deserve my respect. Unless he has a damn good reason for it. Now lets not mix apples here... i am not talking about a bad apple. I am talking about a good one, one that wants to grow and become somebody. Now this individual deserves my most undevided attention and respect for that matter. I will help him where he lacks, if i dont agree with him i will explain why. |
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Reply by: sneakyrat at Mar 09, '10 13:46 | |
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I'm also not saying that the have to show respect to anyone lower than themselves. What I am saying though is if someone lower ranked has something to say then I will be willing to at least listen to it. |
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Reply by: Dante_Balboni at Mar 09, '10 13:49 | |
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Alexander... how can we stand here and demand respect and yet lack to show it until someone earns his button. Now that goes againts what i believe in. Respect is always first in line and i believe it goes both ways. When someone earns his button he deserves your undevided attention... like i said before, i would stop everything i am doing if this man came to me with a certain issue and help him out. If he has'nt earned his button, than i would ask him to go to one of the family's trustee's, not me. But as for respect... every members deserves it! |
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Reply by: sneakyrat at Mar 09, '10 13:50 | |
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I mean every members that shows it! Dont forget the main subject here! |
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Reply by: sneakyrat at Mar 09, '10 13:51 | |
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After hearing the man named Alexander tear down a very well explained speech where in fact he said that it shouldn't matter how one speaks as long as it is directed with respect. You do not think our leaders and upper echelons come out here to speak with no regard to respect? I beg to differ. I have seen many instances Alexander where those out of line were put in their place with the upmost respect and even met demise with that same respect. I would listen to sneakyrats speech again instead of unknowingly contradicting yourself. He made everything quite clear and that is why it was so well received (In my opinion). |
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Reply by: Alfonce at Mar 09, '10 14:01 | |
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To be honest, I think neither extreme is the answer for me. Will I respect everyone fresh off the boat? Hardly. Would I rule out respecting a civilian just because of his place in our hierarchy? Unlikely. If they come to streets with words apparently beyond their "age" and deliver it in the right manner, why not? It may be rare, but I've seen civilians and gangsters talk more sense and spout less crap than crew leaders out here in the past. Of course, respect is a necessity with certain ranks, but it's not the only way to earn my personal respect. There is a difference, no matter how subtle, between respecting a 'rank' - for want of a better term - and respecting a man. I can respect a man of any rank, yet respect for the upper echelons of cosa nostra is mandatory if you see yourself getting anywhere in this world. |
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Reply by: Hoopi at Mar 09, '10 16:05 | |
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* Plax steps up* "before Yelling Simply " unfortunately for veteran players they have seen it all, same speech different voice speaking... I do agree with you here sneakyrat. :) "But my issue is more for the high ranks lacky the respect for a respectful fresh off the boater." maybe cause they can. *Plax looks around* But the funny thing about respect which makes it so complicated ...... cause everyone draws there line in different places. *as Plax see the crowd slowly shaking there heads in disagree with with the low life* |
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Reply by: Plax at Mar 09, '10 16:22 | |
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