Interesting theories you have for the reasoning behind the take down of Corktown. Not knowing the situation or Yobssarg I guess I'll just have to take your word that this is, indeed, the reasoning but it saddens me a bit that this would be put out in public by someone other than the man himself.

These are not my reasons friend, I have been relayed them from the man himself. 

Like I said, he's a man of few words in public. I am simply the messenger.

BobMaloogaloogalooga, there is a reason we have captains, close advisors and communicators. This world works in a chain of command. Don't you worry about who is posting it. Just be glad that you got some insight and it has the stamp of approval of the man himself.

They're not reasons? What are they then?

Whatever they are they feel marginalized and made less important when the man behind them couldn't even be bothered to deliver them.

Capitalist. JohnnyNoName and Yobssarg are two different people, two different Godfather's. Just because Johnny does one thing a certain way doesn't mean that another is going to do it the same way. Yobssarg didn't avoid posting this because he "couldn't be bothered", he gave his words to snowy to relay on to the rest of you. How are we going to nitpick about who posts what?

I must say I'm with Femto on this one. Just be happy Yobssarg is nice enough to have someone post here, and instead of slashing at Snowy why don't you thank you for coming out here?

I'd like to say thank you nonetheless for coming out here and informing the masses what has occurred. RIP to the fallen.

Capitalist.

I have relayed the takedown of Godfather Ragnar Lothbrok as a Captain in NY for Godfather Cantillon.

There is nothing wrong with the mans underboss relaying information to the streets. Be glad you got any explanation at all.

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OT: Billy was a good man, I'm sorry to see him gone. I'm friends with Yobs though and if he thinks he made the right choice, who am I to question it?

Rest in peace Billy & Corktown.

Another episode which gave Yobssarg cause for concern was Billy killing TheSpaniard's RHM Dominic_Santiago_ after he brought Assassin into TheSpaniard's family. Although the right protocol was not followed for the releasing of a member, Yobs felt he should have been consulted before the shot was taken.

I think since my name was brought into this that i should set the story straight on the part highlighted above.

I was approached by Dominic_Santiago_ personally that day with him requesting my help, given my excellent recruiting skills. I was given basic information (only what i needed to know) about the families current situation. After speaking with TheSpaniard in IRC avenue and coming to an agreement with both him and his RHM at the time, I approached my CL (SammyGravano). I explained the situation to my CL as i was told and he spoke with TheSpaniard. It was agreed by both CL's that i would go over there to help that family and make a legit attempt to help that family in a somewhat bleak situation. 

Billy in all his infinite "wisdom" decided to take it upon himself and shoot Dominic (bare in mind none of this was any of his concern as it was not his district) laying the blame completely on him. 

So as far as i am concerned, it was handled correctly, at least as far as what was in my control. Now if the CL's in question didn't handle that problem correctly then maybe the upper echelon needs to communicate better amongst each other and get on the same page on how certain situations need to be handled.

Femto this is not nitpicking. As has been said Yobssarg is a very private person but he's a very private person in a very high position and he's going to be judged by what people see. What people see right now is a guy who doesn't think the death of dozens of mobsters is important enough for him to come out give his reasons, sending his Captain to do it instead.

Bob that may be your opinion. But, what I see and do keep in mind this is me!

I only see a man who doesn't like coming out to the spotlight, which is why the Godfather has Capo's (Captains) who come out here for him. I don't think he doesn't think this is important enough for him, but rather just isn't his way of doing things. We shouldn't expect him too, were just lucky he at least sent someone out to do it for him.

Angelo chuckles at the thought of Peezy intending to war Queens. He knows all to well this is extremely far from the truth. He is pretty sure this purported "war threat" was the product of Billy's imagination. That damn doll would say anything to support his demented views.

Well Drakos you are welcome to your opinion but I, for one, don't feel lucky to know there is a leader out there who I think doesn't really take the death of people he worked with very seriously.

That is true. We are all welcomed to our own opinion, and I will quit trying to change yours. Have a fantastic day!

I wasn't going to come out here and post because to me it wasn't worth it but as you are speaking for Yobs I will go ahead and speak a few things.

Meeting: Yes there was a meeting planned, no a meeting did not take place because Femto danced around with an outside communication named Whatsapp, I asked him if it was not possible for him to get it and said we could just do it on another outside communication called IRC. This was the last I heard of this as you never bothered to contact anyone about a meeting past that.

Lie #1 commenced

Billy never wanted to run Detroit, Billy wanted to build a district and after being sent off and having Cantillon and Yajirobe asking him to take power in Detroit and help out their new to Godfather friend Yobs, he agreed to do so and to look after Yobs and help him out which he did immensely, the bank account transfer of 39,000,000 to help him finish his Bodyguards was a good sign of that and the fact that he kept Yobs in the loop the entire time.

Run Detroit he did not want to do but did so because he was asked nothing more. (Short Version)

Conversation outside of the game between Billy and Cantillon occurred in which Cantillon said that he thought Visicaro should take the 4th District. Once this was said Billy went immediately to Yobs and asked him his opinion on this. His reasons was that it wasn't a bad idea and because Visicaro would have the numbers by then to send off and actually fill a district. Yobs agreed to this and said that he would rather it be somebody they knew. During this conversation, Yobs never bothered to mentioned anything about wanting Femto to run a district, which if he had, he would not have minded that either as for Billy it always about the betterment of Detroit, not the betterment of himself.

In the case of Dominic_Santiago, Spaniard actually blamed her completely for everything including the entry of the bloodline of Assassin which was not actually the problem. The problem was that nobody knew about this transfer nor what he was here for, including his own acting Godfather. His acting Godfather then decided to handle the problem and asked Billy if he would want to take the shot on Dominic as he was a little upset that nobody was actually consulted about this. Billy took the shot, and took the heat, and apparently the death for something that Yobs was never involved in, and didn't actually involve Yobs personally.

Now onto the point of Peezy, Peezy's Right Hand had got mad at Ras who had posted a business district thread without approval. After a mail sent to one named Squishy asking for power to handle this with a deletion of business district threads option, Sneaker decided that it was best to either shoot Ras, or get rogues to do so which she said she has done in the past. Billy then spoke to Peezy who refused to kill her and said that he should just trust that she wouldn't do anything, however, after harsh insulting mails to Billy and already speaking before blocking her own Godfather that she would talk to her real friends who had a "backbone" he decided this risk was not worth taking. Billy then contacted Starscream and Yobs asking them to help find locations, Yobs asked what was going on and was told immediately,  he asked if there was a way to solve it peacefully and I told him there was not, past that he continued to help and even was fine with Snowy_White taking the shot on Sneaker and involving his district in this removal. When the shot was attempted due to the PPing finding by Snowy_White confirming Sneaker's location and the attempted shot did not go through as Sneaker was pro'd and was clearly tipped off about possibly dying. Billy shot Peezy to prevent any kind of actions done by Peezy knowing we were going to kill Sneaker anyways. Again. with the location help of Downtown in this entire situation.
 

Now since you like to try to throw Billy under the bus I want to speak on a few things from Billy's journal I found. The first one being that Femto was never mentioned to anyone in Detroit about wanting a district. Femto was not even capped and actually neither was Yobs, actually Snowy_White had gambled away millions of dollars and 400-500 credits which only hurt him being able to cap himself and help with the district. Instead Billy handed out nearly 40 million dollars to Yobs to cap himself. I love how this wasn't mentioned.

The night Visicaro and Peezy were going to be removed for the argument that we had where he removed tags and begged me to shoot him, that night was the same night that Yobs and his district were helping find locations and be shooters for this takedown. Every takedown mentioned above they were involved in and did not one time bother to share their disagreement with what was going on.

Also the journals read that Yobs actually was not a saint himself. Having his first RH leave him and disappear back to New York to eventually take a bold under Cantillon, along with another RH to Snowy_White who asked to be shot and later told Visicaro that he had left because Downtown was extremely unorganized and couldn't even pick a Hit Squad Leader.

Then there was the night that Femto mailed Billy asking him to mail out about him going bold, again, this wasn't known to Billy until that time, he was contacted shortly after by a New York Leader who told him to tell him to wait for Yobs and again this bold actually never happened.

Detroit had also agreed to share a document that had the Detroit guns on it for emergency, Starscream and Billy had filled out this completely. However, Yobs couldn't even get the shot reports from his district to bother to fill in any of this information, Billy had to ask Yobs many times to finally receive a number to put down, he also had to manually go to Femto to add his, as well as Snowy_White who never filled his in and a week or more later told him he was busy and would get to it but by then we had agreed on something different.

Yobs never spoke about anything to anyone in Detroit, most conversations between Billy and Yobs was started by Billy who tried constantly to bring a unified Detroit. Billy tried his ass off to keep his district safe, and did everything he had to do to protect them, while some may disagree, most if not the high percentage of his district would agree that he did what he had to do based on district safety.

Yajirobe had contacted Billy numerous times stating that he wanted him to run Detroit and help Yobs out since he was new. Billy had promised Yajirobe and Cantillon that he would keep Yobs safe and keep him in the loop and he did just that. At the end of the day, Yobs shot Billy to give a district to Femto despite never mentioning this to anyone in Detroit and as far as Billy knew, to nobody even outside of Detroit.

Billy's kin had made an end note in his journal that Yobs made a power move to get full control of a city. He also stated before this journal ended that Yobs spoke to this kin on outside source IRC and said that he killed Billy because he "could"

The final thought wrote in Billy's journal was that he had a run just like every other Godfather before him, when he went out he wished he had actually shot certain people and suffered the consequences after. He was happy with what he achieved but he would never do it again.

Now to end this post for me because I am not going to argue this shit and rather just put Billy's words into here so people have both sides of the story and can choose their side for themselves. I personally wish you luck Snowy_White and Yobs. Femto I hope your district is very successful and I personally look forward to watching Detroit bloom into what you wanted. So with that being said, best of luck to you Detroit boys.

Personally I have known Billy for a very long time. He shadowed me when I was just a young mobster trying to make a name for myself, and guided me when I took my first major role in this world of ours. For this Billy, I consider you a great friend of mine. You are a great player and I was devastated to see you go down so early into such a fucking fantastic run.

However, I can see why this removal was necessary. Yobssarg had tried to follow up the meetings that Billy wanted to have (or so it seems at least.) But Billy, in the end did not attend. Also, when there are two leaders in a city who do not get along (Never mind them both being GFs) it is as Snowy stated, kill or be killed. Yobssarg had been patient with Billy and his actions. He had endured Billy and his "tyrantical tendencies" and had, overall had enough of Billy. He was thinking of his city as whole and doing what was best for them. For that, I respect the choice you have made Yobssarg.

RIP to Billy and Visicaro. Both great friends who I have known for a fairly long time. I hope I still catch you both around the coffee shops from time to time.

Also, thank you Snowy for coming out here and explaining last nights actions thoroughly.

I honestly can't believe so many people think the masses should feel lucky they received an explanation looooong after a takedown took place and from someone thats not even the decision maker.

Thats laughable right there, in my opinion.

Sure, I accept that Godfathers are going to work differently and the captain can be sent to deliver the news to people, thats fine. But to call it lucky that they bothered to do so simply shows that you hold little value in the process.

If someone starts killing districts and doesn't explain why, its safe to say that they wouldn't be trusted for very long.

Thank you Snowy and Barret for the views of the takedown.