Oh is this where I need to watch out before I become another statistic for your fist fight post? I'll go load a bowl of some moonrock and listen to vapor trap while I wait. 

Curtis dropped his guard last time he reigned and he ended up in a grave. Personally I don't like you Curtis but don't drop your guard again. Keep doing what you are doing until people have a spine to show you up and take you over because everybody here telling you this is bullshit will do the same shit in your position.

Ah, yes. Get rid of Disorder and then the game is won.

Oh, except then you have to kill the rest, heh.

Anyone here who openly states that what Disorder and his friends have done is anything less than a remarkable show of skill and experience is quite frankly a downright fucking liar. I stir shit and try to use propaganda against them like a scummy ruffian in a mafia world would be expected to but I still maintain a healthy amount of respect for what they have all achieved.

We won the game. Simple as that.

You have indeed and you deserve to take a bow, I honestly doubt anyone here would disagree with you deep down, you went to great lengths and sacrificed a great deal to get to the point where you had officially won the game and become supreme leader of the country.

The problem you may find that has most feathers ruffled on here is that you won the game nearly 3-6 months ago depending on how you judge the potential threats. With the removal of Bonkers (and chicago), Mouseycop, Daniella and Borkers (and New York) you also removed the last known serious threats to contend with you and your followers. No one has came close since, except potentially Frankie4Fingers but the circumstances regarding his 'rogue' activities were dubious and unconfirmed at best so I've decided not to include him on the list.

What have you done since then? Half of you barely show up to do anything except shoot and the remainder scramble around every so often shooting low ranking rogues and dispose of a city every other month. There's no skill involved in what you have been doing, none of that experience is showing through any more. All we have is a game full of people who are bored and eager for change just so that there's a bit of variety.

It doesn't require anyone to have much of an IQ to appreciate - based on the rumors floating around - that even you, Disorder, have become sick of all the abuse and hate you are subjected to on a daily basis. For months now its becoming clearer and clearer. What started as well thought out and defiant speeches in the face of all the haters has slowly turned into a forced bitchfest from both sides of the discussion and even then sometimes not even the effort to say anything at all is provided. This leads me to question why? Why would you stay and put up with all of this when you've already won the game in a fantastic style? 

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you're primary purpose is profit and greed but if its not that then what is it? You've won the game, you're sick of all the bullshit, yet you continue to hang around and encourage purging and ridiculous rules of control that are doing nothing except piss everyone below you off and create the divide between the top and the bottom to grow even bigger. For a game that you and many in your regime seem to Love, you're doing a wonderful job of accepting entrance to the winners circle gracefully all the while driving it into the ground.

Even now, mails are being sent from certain crew leaders (the ones who actually still hang about for someone more than just take downs) to their members advising that "the admins are determined to keep coding things designed to make the game entirely unplayable for those at the top." and because of this they are going to just do the same as the other crew leaders and put no effort in to do anything bar probably suicide. For months YOU have been making the game entirely unplayable for anyone who is NOT at the top so whilst its terrible knowing that even now you still think that way, its even more depressing to know that you're willing to continue to let this charade go on despite feeling like that.

What challenges do you face each day that make it worthwhile making yourselves and others miserable? 

I'm not calling for you all to suicide and I'm not calling for the God's to DD you or make your life's as difficult as possible.

You and others continually point out "People should shut up and take us on". All I'm asking is that you cut the shit purging and 100 day take downs and let others have a chance to do so and put us all out of this misery.

purpose is NOT* profit and greed

My bad, don't shoot me.

Drama drama fuckn drama. You guys complaining should put that energy into writing something for the streets. It would be a nicely woven tale taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. Instead, you bitch and moan like asshats. Yes, yall are bitches. Negative, unhappy, bitches.

Maybe all of this is happening for good reason? Maybe things in life aren't such a fuckn damp cloud and out to go bump in the night. Maybe there's a little thing called perspective, and silver lining, and turning challenges into positives, and using situations like his to improve the game for the better in the long run. Which is exactly what the admin team are doing.

Shaq was so dominant he made the NBA create new rules for his play style. Same thing happening here. It's just how life is. Things change. Change is inevitable. Situations like this bring change out, for the better. Always.

So until it's all sorted, which it will be, because that's the nature of evolution - it happens when its suppose to - shut the fuck up and stop whinging like someone stole your lolipops. Fuck me. Thought this place had mature people here.

Maybe giving people the power is a bad thn

thing*

Drama drama fuckn drama. You guys complaining should put that energy into writing something for the streets. It would be a nicely woven tale taking us on an emotional rollercoaster. Instead, you bitch and moan like asshats. Yes, yall are bitches. Negative, unhappy, bitches.

shut the fuck up and stop whinging like someone stole your lolipops. Fuck me. 

 Thought this place had mature people here.

Nuff said.

When I was told in private that what we had done was impressive but that it was causing problems as a side effect, I offered a few different solutions to solve the problem. I also suggested a reset and I was willing to bet that virtually no one would complain about a little down-time for the game while very sensible changes were made and the game restarted with a clean slate. All of the very simple solutions I suggested were rejected out of hand. 

So really, any argument any of you have about us being unethical or somehow unconcerned with the health of the game don't stand up. Just be aware that we all offered to die along with everyone else, for the sake of solving the problems. That offer was refused. Every argument you can make after that is totally void.

I happened to find myself re-reading this absolute gold mine of a thread, full of little gems here and there from various people and I realised that analysis of the above quote could potentially answer some of my own questions about the mentality of certain people here, especially considering no one else seems to be doing it cough haha cough splutter.

Disorder gets told that what he and his buddies are doing is causing problems so he offers some solutions (which couldn't have been much as they aren't even mentioned) however like a good citizen he also suggests a full reset which unfortunately get rejected. Sounds reasonable enough to use it as justification for everything that's happened and should prevent us all from having all these null and void arguments right?

Not quite.

Firstly he suggested a site wide reset that would put everyone back to the very start on behalf of all us because of problems he and his friends were causing. Of all the things that could be possibly suggested, 'a very simple solution' of a reset was the best you could come up with? The one thing that we all know squishy would only do as an extreme last resort, yet you feel the need to justify your continued efforts to ruin the fun for everyone else because you couldn't get your way when you had the ability to do many many other things to help prevent whats happening to the game. Slow claps.

Insidious - you make it sound like a reset was an OK option for him. I see a lot of mentioning of people putting time and effort in their accounts and dieing.. what do you think Disorder has done. He has put a ton of time, effort and possibly some funds along the way to reach the position he is in, but is willing to end that along with his cohorts. 

Now whether this offer was made whilst knowing it would be rejected, that doesn't matter. It was made.

does it excuse the state of the game and the continued state? No. But Disorder and those pulling his strings shouldn't need to bow down to do whatever others want, they have every right to simply play the style they are playing.

If I were on top, I wouldn't be playing in this manner. Which is why i wouldn't last as long as Disorder has. But then I view it as a game too, games are meant to have an end. The state of play now is like an adult playing a toddler at FIFA, there is always going to be one winner, because anytime the toddler gets good at playing, its not allowed to play anymore (character growth = character death).

If thats what the regime consider fun, then thats their choice. But they can't then act shocked that people find their tactics distasteful and boring.

Well done, you've lived ages. Want a medal?

It's not Curtis' job to make the game fun for you. It's your job to make the game fun for you, and if it's not fun in it's current state, do something about that. Bitching here or anywhere else for that matter isn't going to change it. Grow a set of fucking balls, swallow your self righteous egos, earn somebody's trust, gather a dozen or so people YOU trust, and in a month's time you could take out any cap killer in the game.

The same thing you cry and bitch about being the problem, is the solution. This regime does so well because they work extremely well as a unit, and their competition does not. MR is all about working together, or dying together, as a group. One guy and his circle jerk buddies are going to do fuck all, die a lot, and come out here and bitch about it, then wonder why they keep dying. Because you suck balls at MR, that's why.

You can't honestly expect to sit here, piss on everything they do, and expect to live more than a couple weeks. Fucking retarded ass people. The game isn't dying because of the regime, it's dying because grown ass people are acting like soiled diaper wearing pansies crying because they didn't win, place, or show, so you want mommy and daddy to demand participation trophies so everyone can feel like a winner. Grow the fuck up.

Someone just get it over with and shoot this idiot please. I'll even offer myself as a sacrifice and never come back if its guaranteed that his ass kissing mouth is shut up.

It's your job to make the game fun for you, and if it's not fun in it's current state, do something about that. Bitching here or anywhere else for that matter isn't going to change it.

Soooooo do something about it that you enjoy but don't bitch about it even if that's what you decide to do and enjoy doing it. 

Grow a set of fucking balls, swallow your self righteous egos, earn somebody's trust, gather a dozen or so people YOU trust, and in a month's time you could take out any cap killer in the game.

LMFAO. I can't express how much I laughed reading this. Despite continually proving that earning trust means jackshit once you hit a certain point you seem to think that is still the answer. I look forward to seeing how long their trust in you holds out. Also I'd fucking love to see how much you perk on the 24 shots you take daily for a full month if you think that you can build a gun that would take out any cap killer in the game. 24 x 31 is 744 by the way.

I'm actually going to stop there, the rest of what you said was just stupid beyond words. You've taken the whole "I need to say all the right things and insult everyone opposed to the regime so that they like me and don't shoot me" bullshit just a tad too far.

Indubitably well said sir. Very well said.

And of course you would agree with the inaccurate ramblings. Don't breed, either of you. 

Inaccurate because you're too incompetent to understand reality.

gather a dozen or so people YOU trust, and in a month's time you could take out any cap killer in the game.

pretty sure that's been happening, but someone always slips up and they entire group winds up dead.

or they don't slip up, but they're eliminated before they reach the 'could do something level'

Also I'd fucking love to see how much you perk on the 24 shots you take daily for a full month if you think that you can build a gun that would take out any cap killer in the game. 24 x 31 is 744 by the way.

This statement alone proves you are an imbecile who knows absolutely nothing about the game.