Rather than make this political we should be blaming society itself, parents, and the crazy fucks who do this. Bullying in school and on social media has spun out of control. That's what's creating these crazy fuckers and the root  of the problems. Parents need to step up and raise their children rather than letting video games/computers/phones do it. Parental controls should be excessively used on computers and phones. Kids should not be playing M and R rated games at young ages (there are ratings for a reason.) Schools should be suspending bullies. Social media should be controlled by parents. 

This happens no matter what political party is in office. The problem is society itself and we need to take control back.

You do relies that the dude who buys his gun at Walmart has to get a background check right ? 

So after you have proven to the chief of police that you pose no threat and you get a gun and 5 years later  you go on a mass killing how is that really working ? I do believe that most of the mass shooters legally bought there guns yet they still went on to shoot people. Do you really think haven them go through all your training, registering and licencing would have stopped them ? 

I can leave a rifle on my porch and walk away knowing that that rifle wont kill anyone. Guns by them selves dont kill people, its the finger on the trigger that kills. You can out law hand guns, rifles, knives, rope, spoons, forks etc. all you want. If someone wants to kill, they'll find a way to kill, no matter what laws are in place to prevent that. Perhaps society should figure out and fix the root of the problem what ever that may be instead of playing the blame game Pippi_

Bombs by themselves doesn't kill people. Should we make and sell bombs as well? It's common sense, honestly. Why does any civilian need a milspec weapon? 

Pippi_ - if you were in the military and you left your weapon behind like that you would be in really deep trouble, as it is so dangerous in case someone else takes it and uses it.

i think that the inability of the US to deal with this individual liberty vs rights of all point is so, so sad.  

It's about that right to own 

I see this thread has puttered along nicely into the ground. Godspeed everyone, if you shove your head deep enough in the sand the problem will definitely disappear!

I fail to see how Trump can be blamed for things that were happening long before he came along and quite frankly I honestly dont see the issue with him either, being a citizen of UK you would probably expect me to be anti Trump and honestly 70% of us are and that was evident at Trumps visit not that long ago.

However I am not in that group and while I am not a supporter of some of what he says I do believe a strong minded MP/President with the ability to say what he feels and follow through with his views is highly needed right now both in USA and UK, and we could certainly learn some things from him to sort our pathetic mess of a government.

Of course these shooting are horrific and horrible, Trump cannot be blamed for these happening and nor can he be blamed for actions of others on what he has said, he may be up front and say what he thinks but its the individuals involved that are responsible not Trump, my two cents.

Wow, I've seen some stupid statements here. Bombs aren't protected by the Constitution Andrew. Guns are.

Bugs, bombs are actually protected by the definition the supreme court has given on the subject. Bombs are a form of "arms" and therefore the right to bear them them is protected. Granted, there have been a few federal laws passed that require certain taxes, limitations, and licenses to possess them, but they are still able to be possessed by civilians.