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| Disappearing Posts? | Started by: Dominic on Feb 28, '20 22:53 |
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A reply I made to a street thread is not there any more...I didn't get an event saying it was deleted or anything. Weird. |
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That means it wasn't roleplayed out or contained out of character references. |
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| Reply by: Iris at Feb 28, '20 22:56 | |
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You don't get notified when your posts are removed. Please keep in mind when posting in the Streets that you need to remain in-character to avoid posts being deleted. |
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| Reply by: Telkin at Feb 28, '20 22:56 | |
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I would've appreciated someone telling me |
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| Reply by: Dominic at Feb 28, '20 22:56 | |
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We use to be told right Telkin? |
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| Reply by: flipflops at Mar 02, '20 05:46 | |
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Since we have limited resources, we can't afford to spend hours a day arguing with users. When its a one-line OOC reply in a street thread, its easier to remove it and move on rather than to spend 20 minutes in an argument with the user. When you posted the 10 words, you knew they were OOC. I really do not want to have our volunteer crew's sole job to entail wacking 5 replies, then spend 2 hours in heated debates. I'm sorry to be blunt, but an overwhelming majority of people turn very argumentative about why their post/thread was removed or moved, going through something similar to the 5 stages of grief:
Denial: The post was flawless. Its content was perfect and should serve as a shining example for all to bask in its glory of RP perfectness. I spent 10 seconds typing those 10 perfect words. It did not deserve to be removed. Anger There was nothing wrong with it, I am being censored. How dare you make me, of all people, abide by the rules of the forums. This is admin interference, why are you being an asshole. Your friend's former roomate's coworker's hairdresser was in the same crew as an enemy of mine 7 years ago, that is proof you are cheating. When my reply was reported by another user for being OOC, why did you wack that one and not the 3 other ones that were not reported and are not on your radar?! Bargaining Ok, So only a tiny tiny amount of my 10 word post was the word "game", but I meant it as... game... as in... the business, yeah... thats what I meant. Depression Yeah, I'll never write again. You have killed the creativity in me. I have succumb. Acceptance Ok, I will refrain from talking about the website as a game in threads that are posted in the streets that are supposed to be in character role play. This 20 minute exercise has been enlightening and I am glad we could spend it together. After much internal debate, I have objectively considered your statement that "I agree with you, Duh. The whole game's coming apart." may possibly be considered by some as not being in 1930s in character role play isn't too far fetched as I first believed. |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Mar 02, '20 12:41 | |
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Not that I disagree with the above, but perhaps updated forum rules may help people to be clearer on what is/what is not allowed? |
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| Reply by: Grin-06 at Mar 02, '20 17:15 | |
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Its in the text description of the menu that he would click to go to the forum. Its in the ? that links to the wiki article that describes this a few cm away from the link to the forum Its in the top of the page of forum. Its got a sticky thread at the top of the forum. Short of sawing off the barrel of a shotgun and shooting additional descriptions of it at every page, there are some users who will know what its for but just ignore it when it doesn't suit them. This isn't a problem with education, its a problem with self control :/ |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Mar 03, '20 04:51 | |
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Fair enough and I was not trying to be facetious with that comment. It was a genuine suggestion to reduce such issues and prevent engaging in circular debates with users. If you feel the majority of these cases are perpetrated by people who should know better, then perhaps it is just me who is unclear on some of the specifics. I followed the steps you describe and see the thread by Anubis which was a fairly specific response to a particular issue at the time and then the wiki articles, which is more of a help page describing the various forums rather a do's and don't's. What I envisaged was a codified set of rules, similar to the player conduct policy that could be referenced when issues like this occur. A notification when a post was deleted referencing these may further prevent people hassling you/staff with these issues. However, if I am just being obtuse, please disregard. |
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| Reply by: Grin-06 at Mar 03, '20 07:35 | |
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Perhaps when Telkin wants to remove a copy can be sent and why and if the user feels it was in character they can take it to you? |
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| Reply by: Calie at Mar 04, '20 04:00 | |
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Calie, just Telkin or all of the HelpDesk volunteers? What about the other volunteer administrative staff? Should it not be the writer's responsibility to make sure that what they are posting is in the correct format for the forum it is being posted in? It's not like there is a shortage of material that is available to help with that. https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/3908#5746816 https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/67661#229610381 https://wiki.mafiareturns.com/wiki/Forums https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/1026867/tpass/e3aa4185e5100b74fc30927dab321432
That's not mentioning the HQs out there with "how to RP" type threads. Why is the onus on the volunteers and not the writers? |
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| Reply by: Iris at Mar 04, '20 04:15 | |
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Reread what I stated. |
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| Reply by: Calie at Mar 04, '20 04:19 | |
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Calie I think you need to read what Squishy said. After all, it is pretty blunt and to the point. Just go up a few posts in this thread read what he has said. Just in case you deem this a waste of time I'll share part of it with you.
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| Reply by: Iris at Mar 04, '20 06:05 | |
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| Blah blah Iris. I'd ask when did limited resources go into effect but I know the answer. Iris we were at one time informed why our posts were pulled. Stop being an asshole Iris. You are not above everyone. | |
| Reply by: Calie at Mar 07, '20 06:09 | |
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Why is Telkin removing posts? |
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| Reply by: SOOOOOOOOOOOO at Mar 09, '20 05:27 | |
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The two posts removed from this thread added no sustenance to the conversation and were clear attempts at shit-stirring. The Help and Suggestions Forum(s) are not the place to hash out your beefs with other players. |
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| Reply by: Telkin at Mar 09, '20 11:57 | |
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can you remove the title crook doctor created by me i know that is not illegal but the last line of that story is repetitive and its a shame for me please let me claim a bit dignity for me xD |
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| Reply by: Mr_J at Mar 10, '20 12:49 | |
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Mr_J please submit that request to HelpDesk. |
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| Reply by: TheDonBot at Mar 10, '20 12:52 | |
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Posts can be altered with or without a request. |
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| Reply by: RingngBells at Mar 15, '20 04:04 | |
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Boom! The bells are a ringing. Right T? |
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| Reply by: AmericaFirst at Mar 19, '20 06:33 | |
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