At the beginning of the pandemic, I heard the most wise thing about that matter

Whatever new rules we apply during the pandemic, we must ensure that is temporary, and that after the pandemic we will carry on as we did before.

Nevertheless, in my  country Greece, I have noticed that all new laws the past 2 years are voted to remain even after the pandemic. Thus, recently the right for work to 8 hours, has been taken from the workers. That's just an example.  I have noticed that every government takes advantage of the pandemic  to enforce a new status in their area, giving more power to those that already have power. As a global citizen, I watch poor countries to die because they cannot afford the vaccine, and I also watch the richest people on earth to get richer. I would never trust  my government. And I don't trust anyone who claims they want me to remain healthy.... 

I'm not really for mandating people to take a shot because I feel everyone has a right to choose. What I do think is that you put the mandates on the businesses and corporations...like if you want to go over seas and it is mandatory to be vaccinated than you either get the shot or don't go over seas. More so those kind of mandates as oppose to forcing people to take shots. 

im not a big fan of the mandates but so far I havent had to worry about it but my wife may have to make a decision

I'm not a fan of mandating it either, but some vaccines are already mandatory. The fact that they don't solve the problem at 100% doesn't mean that they are not important, and with this emergency would makes sense to have them mandatory.

Only cospirationists that think they are trying to kill us with the vaccines have a little of a "good reason" to refuse it lol

https://youtu.be/NrTYUAXjiAM?t=68

So I think it shows the Fifth Circuit  Court's statement on this and it is partly what I have  been saying all along since the vaccine came out and then this talk of mandating (forcing) of the vaccination on people. 

I think it shows it at 1:08 The Court is  stating that the Mandate

lacks common sense and fails to take into account the full reality of the matter.

Other issues are :  

There is the fact that  covid showed up in 2020 but around April of this year they have   a CDC representative on television saying

this covid vaccine has been being worked on for years. 

Something is wrong when they have been on vaccine for years for a virus that has not even around 2 full years yet. 

Then there is the issue that the FDA falsified validity reports , mixed the control group and the testing groups information up, along with mixing up samples and other red flag stuff around the testing and that they falsified records to get it passed.  Even  if there is some falsehood in these claims, it is a little known fact that they use male DNA for these tests leaving out about 50 percent of the population  and making the tests less reliable. This is why women on Ambien were having car accidents in the 1990's.  They were being given male strength doses which were allowed and okayed by the FDA and prescribed by doctors.

here are two link to the testing that I mentioned 

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

But, for researchers who were testing Pfizer’s vaccine at several sites in Texas during that autumn, speed may have come at the cost of data integrity and patient safety.

 

 https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/

New Delhi, November 7

In a major expose this week, the British Medical Journal (BMJ) reproduced evidence from a former clinical trial auditor at a Pfizer Covid vaccine trial site to raise deep concerns of patient safety during the process.

Studies seem to suggest that mandates don't work.  They seem to just push people to dig in deeper.  I think a more effective measure is to bring forth honest information and work to convince people the need for the vaccine.  

I don't see a problem with it personally. 

I think 90% of the people opposing the vaccine have no idea why they are doing so, or no information to back up their claimed reasons. 

I'm quietly pleased that the UK is insisting on having "Covid Passports" to attend events and such. So basically, don't have it if you don't want to but you're going to miss out on normality whilst the rest of us continue about our lives.

Lol to all you commies saying to force vaccine mandates.  I got real guns in my real house waiting to really shoot you all. Fucking commies. 

Oooh - double the internet tough guy points for Cookie please

Careful cleaning the weapons there sunshine

I think its up to the  person. I dont really understand why anyone else should have a say with what they want.

The Governments have no place mandating this vaccine. Recent news stated the courts agree. (I had the first vaccine and just days later, data came out that was alarming) 

I told my former employer during the first phase of this outbreak when orders were coming down from the Government on how to operate his business, it was a test drive for socialism. Politics played a major hand in this virus since the onset, including the timing of the outbreak.

The US is a very generous Country to other countries in need. Yet, they were spoon fed the vaccines to the less fortunate countries. I found that very disturbing and suspicious. 

I am by no means anti-vax. Show me a vaccine that prevents and stops the spread.

All for it brother. mandate away 

With the new strain appearing internationally, and with some of the attitudes I've seen, particularly in more right wing countries, I'd say mandating the vaccine is worth discussing - especially with vloggers like Steven Crowder running around, convincing weak minded QAnon nutballs about the efficacy of the vaccine.

I worry this has been pumped out a little fast and with the new variants appearing is it something thats helping to mutate this or just not keeping up with the curve? Also it seems like everyone forgot to wear a mask or wash hands again. I still wear masks even tho I am vaccinated just because last year I didnt get a cold or anything and it could not have hurt to wear masks for that. 

As I am living in the United States, I believe it is against my free will as an American Citizen that I am being told what to put into my body.  I'm sure there are more than a handful of people that could have an adverse reaction to it that could lead to serious illness and/or even death and mandating this vaccine will be to blame.  

Also, in certain areas, people are allowed to get a religious exemption letter and show it to work and you are free of the mandatory vaccination.  As I've pointed out before, being an American Citizen, this goes against my free will...  It's basically saying I have to get this stupid vaccine or I will get fired from my job or I have to be religious to be exempt from getting it so I don't lose my job.  Now that's not very free at all, in my opinion.

For me its simple. Vaccines arent advertised as a cure, they're preventative and additive measures to protect ourselves. When people don't give a shit about themselves, we shouldn't go out of our way to make them make themselves better. Let people be who they wanna be. Even if theyre dumb anti-vaxxers.