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| Posting Anonymously | Started by: NoahLevenstein on Jan 15, '13 10:39 |
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I spoke to Izzy about this. IF we did such a thing it would have some strong rules. |
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| Reply by: enkindle at Jan 15, '13 17:51 | |
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I remember seeing a post that was a question about wacking. Immediately I realized the person had to be a hitter, because a prowacker wouldn't need that information. By anonymous posts this can be avoided. |
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| Reply by: Padrino at Jan 15, '13 17:54 | |
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See those rules would be reasonable.
Personally? I'd post anonymously about anything to do with guns or BGs. Maybe even if I had a strong opinion about some other topic that maybe would make me uncomfortable posting as my current IG name. Hell I might even post a suggestion anonymously if I really felt that paranoid about it.
I can't answer for anyone elses reasons but I would be glad at times for the ability to post anonymously. |
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| Reply by: Sorche at Jan 15, '13 17:56 | |
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Just because someone asks a question about a feature, doesn't mean you can automatically assume what their character does. Maybe they are asking for someone else. There are plenty of ways to go about getting information that doesn't reveal things about your character, just the few enkindle gave for example. I still feel, even with the heavy restrictions this is not a good idea, because of the abuse factor. If you are not clever or crafty enough to get the information without revealing things you don't want revealed, that is not something the game should have to make up for. It is also not for the game to keep others from assuming things about people and their characters. |
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| Reply by: PC-Cassiopeia at Jan 15, '13 17:58 | |
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Again, this would be OOC only. |
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| Reply by: enkindle at Jan 15, '13 17:58 | |
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Cassi - There is potential for abuse in everything. Even the graduated tributes that was recently passed. In this aspect its only being discussed as an OOC feature not in the Streets. A lot of people will assume things from what someone posted. Doesn't make them always right but it sure does make people speculate a lot.
enkindle - I have never liked to rely on people for my stuff which is why I mentioned it. Thank you for the offer, I will gladly take you up on it if this somehow doesn't go through. |
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| Reply by: Sorche at Jan 15, '13 18:03 | |
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Sorche, for posting anywhere but OOC, this will not go through. |
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| Reply by: enkindle at Jan 15, '13 18:09 | |
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I would not even think of it for anything but OOC. |
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| Reply by: Sorche at Jan 15, '13 18:12 | |
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Tbh, I should've made this a little bit clearer. I wouldn't want to see this used in the outside or even OOC forums - just as a base for users to 'anonymously' ask questions about game changes in news/announcements. The staff would be able to see who the posters are, but other regular users wouldn't. I should imagine when something like the death wb change was implemented, or the new bg system, dozens of mails asking the same question but wanting to be private were received by admin. A simple public-yet-anonymous post would've solved this. If the admins don't mind answering these mails and so on, then it's really not an issue, I suppose.
"Just because someone asks a question about a feature, doesn't mean you can automatically assume what their character does." I think that's a little contrary, if I'm honest. If someone cares enough about a game change to post on the topic regarding it and ask questions, then it's obviously an aspect of the game they are interested in. Could they be posting on behalf of a friend? Of course, but it's far more likely that they're asking a question on behalf of...themselves. Occams Razor and all that. Tbh, with the current game environment, it's not rocket science to figure out what people are doing with their accounts, but that doesn't mean you should be able to garner that information by what you post in the announcements forum.
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| Reply by: NoahLevenstein at Jan 15, '13 19:01 | |
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Sadly, I've been an incog poster. In fact one of my old threads just got renewed... I got bloodlined for it.... and yet... I still can't say that there should be a reason for anonymous posting. It'll just get cruel and so on. You should have to pay for your words or I guess if you're good at going incog... then you can get away with it. etc. |
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| Reply by: PC-SpikeSpiegel at Jan 15, '13 20:36 | |
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SpikeSpiegel. I don't think anyone is meaning that you shouldn't pay for your words in the RP perspective in the Streets. It's more for News and Announcements (and I would extend it to Game Suggestions). And for that you shouldn't pay for asking a question or speaking an opinion. From my perspective.
Correct me if I'm wrong of course. |
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| Reply by: Sorche at Jan 15, '13 20:38 | |
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Well, considering that as well, I'll refer back to what I said... "It'll just get cruel..." The fact that Noah had to mention a strike system... is a bit too much for me.
There is a respectful manner to comment on the News and Announcements, and also the Game Suggestions page. You can disagree in a way that won't offend. It's when people tend to get a bit too upset... and make fools of themselves... that they get in trouble. The same can be said concerning any facet of the game. |
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| Reply by: PC-SpikeSpiegel at Jan 15, '13 20:48 | |
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Actually, I got admin jailed as a RHM to a CL and the member which was abusive in a Suggestions thread also got admin jailed and eventually admin wacked. So, yes, punishments extend beyond just the streets. The ability for abuse is much higher in this possible feature, than in the feature you singled out that you are against. For one thing, very few people have access to the graduated tributes feature. Every user has access to this. |
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| Reply by: PC-Cassiopeia at Jan 15, '13 20:55 | |
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Hmm. |
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| Reply by: PC-Lola at Jan 15, '13 21:06 | |
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If the option gets implemented, enkindle's said that there would be a certain age at which you'd be able to post anonymously, preventing new players from posting anonymously. |
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| Reply by: Padrino at Jan 15, '13 21:22 | |
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I can't comment more on why I agree with this. I stated it and even the circumstances that I, myself, may use such a feature. Granted not everyone is the same and some people may just be douches with it but I think majority of players will use it with respect.
Experience has taught me to not speak my opinion because sometimes those at the top will twist things.. I learned this from experience. Which is why I don't often post a disagreement or even an agreement in any aspect of the game. Paranoid? Maybe.
Cassi - Graduated Tributes was just an example of something recent that had a lot of possibility for abuse. I haven't expressed an opinion on it via Game Suggestions or any venue within the game itself. |
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| Reply by: Sorche at Jan 15, '13 21:34 | |
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Ah yes I have posted my disagreement with Graduated Tributes. I had forgotten. Strike that from my previous comments. |
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| Reply by: Sorche at Jan 15, '13 21:37 | |
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It should always at least be an option. In my opinion it's better to have an unused feature than not have it but wish to use it. |
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| Reply by: Padrino at Jan 15, '13 21:39 | |
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But in that scenario, the coding of the unused feature takes up valuable space, time and effort better employed for features that will be used. |
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| Reply by: PC-Lola at Jan 15, '13 22:41 | |
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The coding is already in place for PC members to use redacted text. I'm no expert but one would assume that posting anonymously as a user in the announcements forum would work in a similar fashion. Off the top of my head, subjects people might not want to post 'publicly' on, or ask questions about whilst divulging their IG character:
Wacking
These are just the things are that coming to mind immediately. Coming up are big changes to the way the game is played, with the introduction of districts etc and invariably there will be lots of questions and comments.
As both a player who would rather speak to admins in private over things I consider to be of a 'sensitive' nature and as an ex helpdesk and ex assistant who was bombarded with the same question from several different people when some new feature were implemented (for the reason of not wanting to ask in public), it really seems like a basic change for me, I don't understand why people are so opposed.
Tbh, I was debating whether to just stick it in 'little shit that bugs you' at one point! If it's a massive job, I can understand the logic behind not subverting coding hours into it, but if it is (like I thought it wouldve been) a similar concept to redacted text, then in the long term it should surely save staff more time?
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| Reply by: NoahLevenstein at Jan 15, '13 23:15 | |
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