You act like this is the first time a group has killed one of their own or that it doesn't happen in the Mafia. Lulzzzzzzzz. Shits hilarious. And really, getting pissy because they portray the image of making collective decisions so that other groups will think twice about trying to make some power plays? That's what you do, instill fear any means necessary, sorry the mafia isn't 100% truth to everyone. Reasons given for takedowns and wars should be taken with a grain of salt. It's as easy as you are in power, there is someone powerful enough out there to remove you from that power. You have a few choices, 1) Kill that player that could potentially kill you or 2) Do nothing and hope that the individual/group doesn't kill you. Every group also has shitty individuals in it, if that wasn't true you wouldn't see any obits where there is a NO WS REQUIRED from a family member. Lastly, the amount of times I have been wacked for personal reasons greatly out weighs the times I have been wacked for in game reasons over my ten years of playing. Blanketing an entire group of people as scumbags because a couple of them got out of hand and attacked a few individuals personally is completely uncalled for. After any takedown/war this happens. A few individuals that was in the group that got wiped out gets extremely pissy and anything they think flies from their finger tips. That is what happens when you dump lots of time/money into a character and have it taken away and it will never stop. The admin team can put rules in place that it won't be tolerated and players can point fingers as much as they want, it just wont change a damn thing. Just get over it or go play a game that isn't focused around power. 

this game has gotten to the point that the players would rather let the admins remove the powers that be rather than remove that power themselves

Seriously, people need to stop with this crap. No, the players didn't want admins to do anything for them. But if you want to take on a group that has around 10 IWP cap hitters, it takes fucking ages for you to get enough people to achieve this. Unfortunately, if during the many many many months it takes to achieve this, the group in question does some dumb shit and gets hit by admins, then Yes the opportunity is then taken away from the players to do something about it.

This does not mean that none of the players wanted to make changes, just that they didn't manage to.

As for the rest of the nonsense in this thread.. not even going to bother.

afghanmango

Why are you implying they killed me? Does anybody really think I was in Simplicity's district or something? Get over it, this isn't a pissed off dead family member of a recent war. Or am I? XD

Seriously people, I'll say it one more time for everyone to read.

This isn't about their power in game. I do not care about their in game IC actions or account, and I could care less about bloodlining personally, I'm just presenting the facts of the situation and responding to claims that 'they're not that bad' when less than a year ago most people abhored the practice of bloodlining. Should I start pasting links?  

I want to know why their group allowed these things to happen, and why they continue to defend those people.

It's seriously disturbing that you can't see the difference, apparently I'm not allowed to talk about their bloodlining but you people can come out here and tell me i need to handle it in-game.

Do you see how that doesn't make sense?

Are you telling me I can't come here to come to OOC to voice my concern about the general attitude and actions of the group? I'm so sorry I used some in-game examples to highlight the fact that this group is the worst group.

Bloodlining, scripting, admin revenge killings, hepdesk intimidation, real life hurtful insults toward the owner - these are my points. Personally I only care about the revenge killings, intimidation, and mainly the real life extremely insensitive insults thrown around in dark corners of the internet behind the poor man's back, days out of the hospital.

Why do I only care about those things and not the other things?

Because none of those things ever happened to me at the hands of the 303, which is why I think it's stupid for me to focus or argue on it, but it wouldn't show the whole picture of the organization if it was omitted.

So, are there any other comments or questions regarding the intent of my words? Can I make this any clearer for anyone?

They did bad things, many bad things, why don't they feel responsible for them? Why don't they have to answer for their idleness and possible collusion? These are things outside what most would consider normative behavior on this thing of ours, and nobody can deny that and nobody can point to a regime that is guilty of this much shit.

Okay guys I don't like how this thread is moving away from the original topic which is that damn DeadlySin being a hated tyrant comparable to CP, Gf council, Roman/Prem, 303, and just so darn oppressive :(

You want the truth? You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

See, here's the truth: The fact that a civilian hiding behind incog thinks he is owed an apology for people playing the game just because he doesn't like them is fucking clownshoes.

I know, I know. "UR JUST A DIRTY 303 BALL LICKER!" No matter how many times I have to say that I don't even know what the fuck a 303 is, it doesn't seem to matter.

The 303 may be everything you say they are. They may be the worst of the worst of the worst. They may kill puppies and eat children. I haven't seen any of that, but sure. Why not. They may be all that.

You're still worse than that. Because all you can do is sit here and cry like a bitch. 

And for the record: Selenity was worse than ANY of the 303 people by far. Just, you know, for the record.

Also don't forget about that terrible ToyArmadillo what a tyrant he was!! You talk about no morals!!!

THAT ARMADILLO WAS THE SWEETEST OF ANY ARMADILLOS BECAUSE HE WAS A TOY AND HE VIBRATED WHEN PET

OOOOOH!! (facepalm)

I GET IT (finally)

This is a case of:   http://tinyurl.com/pyzu5jo

What I basically got from this thread, is that Kyubey is an arsehole.

Boo, hiss, Kyubey. BOO. HISS. 

Squishy joined the 303?

inb4 Squishy DDs himself because he can't prove to himself he wasn't involved